Meath_Villan Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Boom....age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If heskey was Irish ...trapp would have brought him on for the last 15 mins while chasing a game .......sound familiar !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2012 Only if the ball is played forwards though, surely? What I'm saying is, Jelavic was only 'onside' until the point where he became active, because positionally he was offside when the initial shot was taken by his team-mate. Basically, until that ball was cleared, Jelavic should not have been able to touch it no matter how it got to him, because his own player took the shot that started the whole sequence of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Is that the interpretation of the rule they are taking in this tournament though? They change how they deal with active and passive so often I lose track and I have seen no clarification for Euro 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2012 I haven't seen any clarification either, but I thought the active/passive thing was fairly well defined at this point, however subjective or prone to abuse it can be at crucial points in a game. What I will say is that if there is any interpretation of the rule that makes Jelavic onside in that scenario then it's an interpretation that shouldn't be used. He was off at the start and the move hadn't ended. Anyhoo, that's beside the point. The bigger decision was actually the non-award of the penalty at 2-1. One can only assume he didn't give it because he was conflicted about Mandzukic lying injured further up the field. I wonder how Mandzukic is this morning btw. He spent most of the 2nd half rolling around. I feared for his life as he was helped from the pitch; the poor soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 My initial reaction was i thought it should have been offside because of where he is when Modric Shoots, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I was impressed with the italians yesterday, really would like them to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 he was offside in 1st phase but doesnt excuse Ward and his "clearance" Spain game on thursday we will just be so negative and I expect a green camp on the edge of our box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2012 Yup, it has been a tournament of strange formations so far. I think we'll see the old 8-1-1 make an appearance on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ward was fouled, hence the awful clearance. Also for me the other Croatian was offside and very close to the original shot. But there's no doubt that we were nowhere near good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Jelavic was offside 1st phase and it was a foul on ward, the Croat knew exactly what he was doing Ireland were poor though so the scoreline was deserved IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Was it Dunne who lost the man and header for goal 3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2012 If I remember correctly (I may not), I think it was St.Ledger who lost him but I'd have to see it again. I seem to remember both CBs ended up marking Dunne's man and the other fella was then free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ireland could have beaten them, they played way too many long balls up to doyle. They needed to get it into the feet of mcgeady duff and keane instead. Thought andrews was a liability too, should have played darren gibson in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Would've been off on Fifa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 The next 2 games could be seriously X-rated for Dunne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Problem for Ireland is we struggle against teams with deep playmakers as our midfielders are non existant at times and cant close them down for this Modric was immense last night and Xavi and Pirlo will be licking their lips now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 11, 2012 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think they've been doing that for a few weeks with the prospect of facing Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Andrews actually got Man of Match by most of media over here. He is actually better footballer out of him and Whelan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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