The_Rev Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yeah, they are the rules for this tournament. Presumably it is because of some very suspicious results that have happened in previous tournaments where the minnows of a group have conveniently been hammered by a team they are friendly with outside of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 but am sure its different rules for World Cup as i remember Ireland had similar issue in 2002 we just had to beat Saudi Arabia by 2 goals to qualify and didnt need to worry about other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I think the rules are dictated on a competition by competition basis. They will change all the time too as there is no perfect system. The current system looks unfair on Italy this time, but if they did it as a straightforward race then what would happen if a team needing a big win in the last game absolutely hammered a team who were already out? Either way it wont suit somebody, and as long as all the teams agree to the rules before the competition starts (and I presume you will not be allowed to enter if you dont agree) then I cant see it being too much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Italy went out in 2004 in this exact situation with Sweden and Denmark drawing 2-2. When Sweden equalized 15-20 min before time the game died and both teams were visible happy to end the game. The Italians were not happy but I´m sure it will happen again if it is 2-2 with 15 min. to go in Spain-Croatia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The Italians are the last people who can legitimately complain about match fixing though, arent they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Italy went out in 2004 in this exact situation with Sweden and Denmark drawing 2-2. When Sweden equalized 15-20 min before time the game died and both teams were visible happy to end the game. The Italians were not happy but I´m sure it will happen again if it is 2-2 with 15 min. to go in Spain-Croatia. in that game Sweden equaliser was actually 88 minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Haha oh well, I remember it as alot longer. Great pictures of Soerensen and Mellberg hugging after the match. That, our fans dancing together and the signs of "2-2 = Nordic victory" were abit too much for the Italians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Anyone think Ireland can cause an upset and get 1 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 They should just make it goal difference, it'd encourage attacking football as well surely. This head-to-head stuff is bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 agree it should be on goal difference and just another stupid confusing UEFA rule. its nearly as bad as their suspensions for final rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I agree. If it was goal difference Italy would have gone through in euro 96 and the Czechs would have gone out in the group phase. Also goal difference s better because it takes into account every single game, rather then just 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I've had a cheeky fiver on Spain not making it out of the group, just can't shake the feeling that Croatia are going to fluke a win. Slim to none chance in reality but stranger things have happened in tournament football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Which game will everyone be watching. On paper Spain Croatia is the more exciting one, but ROI are a home nation, kind of, and they have a big villa connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax-fan Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Come on Ireland! Please get at least one point. Netherlands deserves to be the worst team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Bilic: "It (racism) is a big problem all around Europe and all around the world and on behalf of the entire nation, not even as a football manager, I want to say that I am really disappointed as a Croatian, a parent, and a sportsman, a person who comes from a modern, open-minded and tolerant state. "Everyone is welcome in our county. I don't like these kinds of supporters and nor do my players. I don't want them to come into the stadium. "I live in Croatia and we really are a tolerant county. We are not a racist country and we are angry at these few crazy supporters. We have to put sanctions on these kind of supporters and stop them forever." Top man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2012 As a slight, and slightly facetious, rebuttal to Bilic, every Croatian I've ever had any contact with has been a hateful bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2012 As a slight, and slightly facetious, rebuttal to Bilic, every Croatian I've ever had any contact with has been a hateful bastard.Ustaše Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 As a slight, and slightly facetious, rebuttal to Bilic, every Croatian I've ever had any contact with has been a hateful bastard. Can you elaborate on that point please? I lived in London for 4 years and met people from literally from every country you can think of, but I never met a Croatian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Anyone think Ireland can cause an upset and get 1 point. Not me. Another dismal performance by the paddy's ahead. The players just aren't good enough and its probably the worse Irish team we've had in 30 years. Italy will keep the ball much better than we will and will break us down without too much bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Anyone think Ireland can cause an upset and get 1 point. Not me. Another dismal performance by the paddy's ahead. The players just aren't good enough and its probably the worse Irish team we've had in 30 years. Italy will keep the ball much better than we will and will break us down without too much bother. I agree it is the worst Ireland team in a major tournament. But it is much better then some of the Ireland teams that did not qualify for example the team that flopped so badly in the 2006 world cup qualification and lost 5-2 to Cyprus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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