Wainy316 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Love is a natural emotion which serves a purpose to help us: A: pro-create and B: protect the young that we have created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) You could say that love as shaped the word we live in and the creatures that live in it. Depends on the definintion of love really I'm sure the definition must deviate from person to person but if it's all about attraction then maybe you could say that love has a better claim on shaping the world we live in, via sexual selection, than say God does. Edited June 26, 2014 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'd say war did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Religion is the biggest trigger for war obviously, has there been a war where religion was not involved? Vietnam maybe or am I wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 It is a flawed question. Love is a feeling, religion is a belief in the existence of far more than a feeling. Religion is a feeling too. No it isn't it might cause feelings but at the heart of it there is a core belief(s) there is a difference. As I said previously if people who believe in love also believed in Cupid you might have a point. Exactly, and I think MMV has had this argument before. "Love" is just the name we give to the biological and psychological emotion we feel as a result of various social and hormonal stimuli. I love my family. Even if that love is nothing other than a chemical reaction that causes a sensation in my brain, it exists. As for religion, well faith exists in the same way as love in that I fully believe that religious people fully experience that emotion, it's just that the object of their faith doesn't exist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 26, 2014 Administrator Share Posted June 26, 2014 All I know is, when the final battle comes, I hope humanity has the technology to resurrect Will Smith to lead us against the robot legions. Let's just hope he has a compatible lead to upload the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 All I know is, when the final battle comes, I hope humanity has the technology to resurrect Will Smith to lead us against the robot legions. Let's just hope he has a compatible lead to upload the virus. It won't be made by Apple then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Here's Wiki on the philosophy of love: "There are many different theories that attempt to explain what love is, and what function it serves. It would be very difficult to explain love to a hypothetical person who had not himself or herself experienced love or being loved. In fact, to such a person love would appear to be quite strange if not outright irrational behavior." Edited June 27, 2014 by MakemineVanilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here's Wiki on the philosophy of love: "There are many different theories that attempt to explain what love is, and what function it serves. It would be very difficult to explain love to a hypothetical person who had not himself or herself experienced love or being loved. In fact, to such a person love would appear to be quite strange if not outright irrational behavior." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted June 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here's Wiki on the philosophy of love: "There are many different theories that attempt to explain what love is, and what function it serves. It would be very difficult to explain love to a hypothetical person who had not himself or herself experienced love or being loved. In fact, to such a person love would appear to be quite strange if not outright irrational behavior." Yeah, and? My family exist. My feelings of love for them exist. Whether that love is just a load of hormones making my brain react in a certain way, or is an evolutionary construct to ensure the survival of the species, I don't know. Or care. Religion exists. People who are religious, I believe, have similar feelings for whatever god they worship. I don't believe that those gods exist. I'm really not sure where you're going with all of this to be honest, but you seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's not the existence of religion itself that is in doubt, just the object of the faith involved. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here's Wiki on the philosophy of love: "There are many different theories that attempt to explain what love is, and what function it serves. It would be very difficult to explain love to a hypothetical person who had not himself or herself experienced love or being loved. In fact, to such a person love would appear to be quite strange if not outright irrational behavior." Yeah, and? My family exist. My feelings of love for them exist. Whether that love is just a load of hormones making my brain react in a certain way, or is an evolutionary construct to ensure the survival of the species, I don't know. Or care. Religion exists. People who are religious, I believe, have similar feelings for whatever god they worship. I don't believe that those gods exist. I'm really not sure where you're going with all of this to be honest, but you seem to have lost sight of the fact that it's not the existence of religion itself that is in doubt, just the object of the faith involved. I just offered a quote which suggested that for some people who have not experienced feelings of love, it seems irrational, just as those who have not experienced religious feelings, find that irrational. I asked earlier why open season has been declared on people who claim to have religious faith, which they consider sacred, but some of those who ridicule them, expect that what they themselves feel is sacred, 'love', should not be questioned. If true, I don't think that is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 27, 2014 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2014 I normally agree with MMV but this is getting silly. It's a huge non sequitur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just offered a quote which suggested that for some people who have not experienced feelings of love, it seems irrational, just as those who have not experienced religious feelings, find that irrational. I asked earlier why open season has been declared on people who claim to have religious faith, which they consider sacred, but some of those who ridicule them, expect that what they themselves feel is sacred, 'love', should not be questioned. If true, I don't think that is fair. I don't think anybody has said that "love" should not be questioned, they're just questioning you comparing it to a belief in a supernatural being. If you're going to question love, then you need to extend that to all other human emotions and feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djamfisher Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Religion isn't a feeling because it is man made, feelings evolve naturally. The concept of religion and then guidelines within the different ones were created by us. Ppeople choose follow due it going along the lines of their thoughts on life, or that they belive in what it belives. everyone at one time can be sad, happy, fall in love (this can be with anyithing and everything). Feeling is an emotion, so they may 'love' their religion, but the feeling itself is not religion. If religion is a feeling, then wouldn't football, or sport, be a feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) What is love, anyway, does anybody love anybody anyway? What is love, baby don't hurt me. So, MakeMineVanilla is either 80s synth god Howard Jones, or early 90s Europop dance behemoth Haddaway. But which one of those two great philosophers is he?! Interestingly, "What is love" was the most searched-for Google term of 2012. edit: and of course, I get beaten to the Haddaway reference. There clearly is NO GOD. Edited June 27, 2014 by Risso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 What`s love got to do with it,got to do with it. What`s love but a secondhand emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I normally agree with MMV but this is getting silly. It's a huge non sequitur. I don't think it is. I have simply stated that both love and religion are feelings and should be treated as equal. For it to be a non sequitur I have to introduce a third factor and claim that it is the same, which I have not done. Thus: All men are humans Mary is human Therefore Mary is man. You can dispute that love or religion is not a feeling but it is not a non sequitur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 27, 2014 Moderator Share Posted June 27, 2014 I have simply stated that both love and religion are feelings and should be treated as equal. And as has been stated in response several times, the two are different because... well I'm not going to repeat it again. You are free to believe the two are the same if you wish but they really aren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 27, 2014 Moderator Share Posted June 27, 2014 Faith in a god isn't a feeling its a con job 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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