Zatman Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Thing is, he would probably not even know about this. Of course he would, Peps mates are running the club for the last decade and he has been there 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Thing is, he would probably not even know about this. Surely he would? If he had signed 2 contracts and was being paid twice per month. It like working for Tesla and getting one salary from Tesla and another monthly payment from Musk or separate business linked to him. Edited February 10, 2023 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: Surely he would? If he had signed 2 contracts and was being paid twice per month. It like working for Tesla and getting one salary from Tesla and another monthly payment from Musk or separate business linked to him. Not necessarily - he can get one salary, but the source of money could be hidden behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Of course Pep doesn’t have a separate contract. He’s a good soul for looking after that £25m a year his dog gets from Abu Dhabi Government holdings corp. allegedly. Possibly? I might have made this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Not necessarily - he can get one salary, but the source of money could be hidden behind the scenes. Effectively that’s what’s happening with player salaries. The money is coming into the club bank account from sources it shouldn’t. Mancini had a contract being paid from the club, AND then a separate contract with a third party but also for managing the team. It was to reduce the clubs manager bill on the books. It would be interesting if Pep has any other agreements in place with anyone from Abu Dhabi (which may look like a supplement to his salary for managing the first team). Edited February 10, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Genie said: It would be interesting if Pep has any other agreements in place with anyone from Abu Dhabi (which may look like a supplement to his salary for managing the first team). Gets paid £5m per appearance at the sheiks birthday party... And I'm only half joking, it would be interesting to see if and how many appearance fees are paid during events when city players travel there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: I wonder if Pep has one of these dodgy dual-contract arrangements? I wonder if players have those dodgy dual contract arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Gets paid £5m per appearance at the sheiks birthday party... And I'm only half joking, it would be interesting to see if and how many appearance fees are paid during events when city players travel there And I wonder, although it's dodgy, is it illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Gets paid £5m per appearance at the sheiks birthday party... And I'm only half joking, it would be interesting to see if and how many appearance fees are paid during events when city players travel there I wouldn’t be surprised. Q. Whats this payment for Pep? A. That’s £2m for a public appearance in the UAE. Q. Why is it paid every month even when you haven’t been out there? … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: And I wonder, although it's dodgy, is it illegal? It’s cheating the FFP rules. Not sure if it’s illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: And I wonder, although it's dodgy, is it illegal? In theory no, you'd guess they're at least smart enough to make it direct payments from the owner to the player, do it via a 3rd party like a booking agent and then via a company linked to anyone other than the owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Head of the fans supporters group says ' no matter what happens, they can't take those special moments from us'. Yes, that's why you need the book thrown at you. All those fans of other teams including us that have been denied silverware by your cheating. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: In theory no, you'd guess they're at least smart enough to make it direct payments from the owner to the player, do it via a 3rd party like a booking agent and then via a company linked to anyone other than the owner Let's say Pep or players do get paid crazy money for visiting Abu Dhabi. If, for instance, a company called 'Abu Dhabi's Princes Birthday Party Group LTD' has an independent contract with Pep for a one off appearance, would that be an FFP breach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Let's say Pep or players do get paid crazy money for visiting Abu Dhabi. If, for instance, a company called 'Abu Dhabi's Princes Birthday Party Group LTD' has an independent contract with Pep for a one off appearance, would that be an FFP breach? In isolation it wouldn’t look so bad, with everything else that seems to be going on they could decide it’s another attempt to breach the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, AshVilla said: I'm also surprised the media haven't jumped on this more. Like 115 suspected breaches, club could literally be kicked out the league but they seem scared/relucant to say anything about the subject. Lets face it if this were us we wouldn't hear the last of it. Ongoing legal case presumably - difficult to put stuff out there regarding what they may or may not have done. Investigations are still going on. I imagine when it eventually ends up in court it'll be different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: It’s cheating the FFP rules. Not sure if it’s illegal. But in theory if the company that pays the player is not owned or maybe linked to city's owner in a demonstrable way then does it breach the rules? Messi is paid an obscene amount by the Saudis to be a tourism ambassador or whatever, does that mean if he signed for newcastle it would be seen as breaking FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Let's say Pep or players do get paid crazy money for visiting Abu Dhabi. If, for instance, a company called 'Abu Dhabi's Princes Birthday Party Group LTD' has an independent contract with Pep for a one off appearance, would that be an FFP breach? To me unless you can find a direct link between man city's owner and ADPBPG Ltd then no it's not And if the PL can't find a link between the Saudi government and the PIF then what chance have they got of anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, villa4europe said: But in theory if the company that pays the player is not owned or maybe linked to city's owner in a demonstrable way then does it breach the rules? Messi is paid an obscene amount by the Saudis to be a tourism ambassador or whatever, does that mean if he signed for newcastle it would be seen as breaking FFP? Yeah, as I said, in isolation it’s probably fine. With 100 charges of cheating the system then it could be seen as another one. Messi obviously best player in the world and there’s a lot of marketing value. If Pep is paid millions to sing happy birthday then it looks a bit shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Pep just said Quote “My first thought is we’re already being condemned. It’s the same with UEFA, we were already condemned. The club proved we were completely innocent. You know on what side I am. Not really true tho is it Mr Pep Edited February 10, 2023 by PieFacE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Pep just said Not really true tho is it Mr Pep Has he even looked at the emails that are in circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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