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Bound to be one in the new year I think. Ed Milliband is not handling things at all well and given the economic conditions and the eurozone issues coupled with mid term government you would expect Liebour to be ahead in the polls.

They aren't and given the battering he got yesterday I would say he is on borrowed time

So who do you think is in line for it next?

Has to be his big brother surely and Liebour can right the wrong?

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Don't have too much of a problem with Ed, personally. Not saying that he is a great party leader (nor is Cameron - at least according to some tories :mrgreen:) but I'm not sure that particularly matters much to me.

As long as he asks pertinent questions of the government when he can (they won't all be good/pertinent/useful or whatever as they never could be) then he is doing some sort of a job as leader of the opposition.

I'm not sure that the Labour party have many good options on the front bench at the moment (Miliband I isn't either, in my view) so there's not much point in them changing and there isn't really a mechanism for getting rid of their leader, is there?

It would appear that until Ed M feels he ought to go, he won't.

As party leaders go, perhaps he isn't the one in the most fragile position (he may not even be in the top two). ;-)

Edit: Not that I'm putting her forward but I wouldn't be surprised if the next labour leader (whenever it may be) is Cooper, tbh.

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Spoke to an ex poster the other week and he's fairly sure it won't be Dave M up next ( felt almost sorry for him the other day when he got to ask Cameron a question which Cameron just sort of waved away without much thought)

The bint that sits next to Ed and nods her head a lot would be where I put my money ... Harriet Harman ??

But it says a lot about the state of the labour party that there is no strong candidate at present , maybe someone will sneak through ..I quite like the bloke from Essex who appears on the one show from time to time , straight talking and quite honest , very rare in a politician

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Spoke to an ex poster the other week and he's fairly sure it won't be Dave M up next ( felt almost sorry for him the other day when he got to ask Cameron a question which Cameron just sort of waved away without much thought)

The bint that sits next to Ed and nods her head a lot would be where I put my money ... Harriet Harman ??

But it says a lot about the state of the labour party that there is no strong candidate at present , maybe someone will sneak through ..I quite like the bloke from Essex who appears on the one show from time to time , straight talking and quite honest , very rare in a politician

I am undecided on EM as a leader, Labout scored an own goal when his brother was not voted in, this will cost them at the next GE probably. However I wouldnt exacly call Cameron a strong leader.

"If "winning" PMQs is about putting in a performance characterised by confidence and displays of strength, then of course Cameron will "win" every time. That's the nature of the man".

The trouble with Cameron he can be his own worst enemey.

"At a time when people are becoming increasingly fearful of the economic prospects for themselves and their families, the idea that the country is being run by someone defined by their self-satisfaction, their callousness, and their palpable sense of entitlement, is not necessarily one that appeals. Polls show that Cameron is seen as someone who doesn't understand the concerns of ordinary people. Those struggling in this recession will find it increasingly hard to see why the Prime Minister looks so pleased with himself".

"The second contrast to emphasise is the one between Cameron's confident demeanor and his personal competance. The state of the economy will make this case for Miliband by itself. Cameron has been described more than once as a lightweight who doesn't grasp detail. The EU debacle underlined this point. Again, look at it from the point of view of the average voter. Why is the Prime Minister strutting around looking so pleased with himself when the economy's going down the toilet? (Remember that by 2015, Cameron will own the state of the economy 100%. There'll be no pinning it on Labour by then).Remember that his personal approval ratings are negative2".

As for the Leader of the Labour Party I think Labour should get David Milliband back some where in to the party.

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"It's not that bad, I mean, it's not like we're brothers or anything" - Made me lol.

I wouldnt be so sure of that if I were you. I would go one step futher, the amount of ass licking Clegg is going I would suggest they are more closer than brothers.

What? What exactly am I 'sure of'? I was quoting something which made me chuckle.

Don't use me in your political agenda, thank you.

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Andy Burnham is the Labour bod who most impressed me in their leadership election thing. He seemed to have his own views and to voice them rather than being too worried about image or not saying the wrong thing.

I dunno how good he'd be as a leader, but as an MP he's impressive.

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Bah, I must be particularly cheery today because all I can think is that none of them will make any difference.

They'll all pander to their chums, they'll **** the rest of us, some slightly less obviously, some being quite open about bending us over, they'll all serve the party before the country, they'll all be contrary at PMQs because they're wrong because the tie's the wrong colour, it'll all be spin and lies when their errors of thought are pointed out.

**** em. Some of 'em are more likable than others, sometimes, but ultimately they'll just make you angry.

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Spoke to an ex poster the other week and he's fairly sure it won't be Dave M up next ( felt almost sorry for him the other day when he got to ask Cameron a question which Cameron just sort of waved away without much thought)

The bint that sits next to Ed and nods her head a lot would be where I put my money ... Harriet Harman ??

But it says a lot about the state of the labour party that there is no strong candidate at present , maybe someone will sneak through ..I quite like the bloke from Essex who appears on the one show from time to time , straight talking and quite honest , very rare in a politician

I am undecided on EM as a leader, Labout scored an own goal when his brother was not voted in, this will cost them at the next GE probably. However I wouldnt exacly call Cameron a strong leader.

If "winning" PMQs is about putting in a performance characterised by confidence and displays of strength, then of course Cameron will "win" every time. That's the nature of the man.

The trouble with Cameron he can be his own worst enemey. At a time when people are becoming increasingly fearful of the economic prospects for themselves and their families, the idea that the country is being run by someone defined by their self-satisfaction, their callousness, and their palpable sense of entitlement, is not necessarily one that appeals. Polls show that Cameron is seen as someone who doesn't understand the concerns of ordinary people. Those struggling in this recession will find it increasingly hard to see why the Prime Minister looks so pleased with himself.

The second contrast to emphasise is the one between Cameron's confident demeanor and his personal competance. The state of the economy will make this case for Miliband by itself. Cameron has been described more than once as a lightweight who doesn't grasp detail. The EU debacle underlined this point. Again, look at it from the point of view of the average voter. Why is the Prime Minister strutting around looking so pleased with himself when the economy's going down the toilet? (Remember that by 2015, Cameron will own the state of the economy 100%. There'll be no pinning it on Labour by then).

Remember that his personal approval ratings are negative.

As for the Leader of the Labour Party I think Labour should get David Milliband back some where in to the party.

If your name isn't D Wearing, then you really should quote stuff you've nicked from The Guardian website:

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At a time when people are becoming increasingly fearful of the economic prospects for themselves and their families, the idea that the country is being run by someone defined by their self-satisfaction, their callousness, and their palpable sense of entitlement, is not necessarily one that appeals. Polls show that Cameron is seen as someone who doesn't understand the concerns of ordinary people. Those struggling in this recession will find it increasingly hard to see why the Prime Minister looks so pleased with himself.

If you are D Wearing, then apologies.

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