andykeenan Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Monday Premiership Liverpool travel to Fulham live on Sky Tuesday Champions League Chelsea home against Valencia a win or goaless draw will see em through live on Sky Sports 2 & Arsenal who are alreay through and finish top of there group travel to Olympiakos live on Sky Sports 4 plus 6 other games on red button Championship Barnsley home against Palace Wednesday Champions League Man Utd travel to FC Basel only a point see them through to knock out stages live on ITV 1. Man City must beat Bayern Munich live on Sky Sports 2 and hope Napoli dont win at Villareal live on Sky Sports 4 plus 6 other games on red button Championship Small Heath travel to Hull
Zatman Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 If King Kenny was Villa manager he be hounded out by now . Losing games to Fulham and Stoke is poor
kurtsimonw Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Neville is superb with his analysis and stuff. Showing no bias against Liverpool at all either to be fair.
villa4europe Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Carroll really is **** awful, red card for me never in control
TheDrums Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 £35m well spent. I cannot believe Derek Llambias (sp?) turned down £30m and told Liverpool to come back with £35m up front. :S Ok, they did get it but they could have walked away. Maybe not as it was deadline day..
Zatman Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I cannot believe Derek Llambias (sp?) turned down £30m and told Liverpool to come back with £35m up front. :S I cant believe Liverpool actually came back with the 35 million up front
TheDrums Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I cannot believe Derek Llambias (sp?) turned down £30m and told Liverpool to come back with £35m up front. :S I cant believe Liverpool actually came back with the 35 million up front Thats true, but you must have balls to turn down £30m for Andy bloody Carroll, over the sake of an extra £5m.
LincsVilla Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Carrol is shit, £35M is a joke price, Newcastle did unbelieveably well to get £35M for that clown.
kurtsimonw Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I didn't even know Carroll was playing until he was subbed off.
LondonLax Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Which looks the worse deal, £35m for Carrol or £50m for Torres?
The_Rev Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Which looks the worse deal, £35m for Carrol or £50m for Torres? Torres, easily. Remember, Liverpool used the money from Torres and Babel to buy Carroll and Suarez. While Carroll has hardly been value for money, at least it was Chelsea's money Liverpool were spending.
Genie Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 I cannot believe Derek Llambias (sp?) turned down £30m and told Liverpool to come back with £35m up front. :S I cant believe Liverpool actually came back with the 35 million up front Thats true, but you must have balls to turn down £30m for Andy bloody Carroll, over the sake of an extra £5m. I was genuinely gob smacked that day, firstly that Liverpool bid £30m and then because Newcastle turned it down. I still cannot catch my breathe now. Its bordering on requiring a police investigation.
DiegoD Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Watching Liverpool use Carrol makes it worse. They don't play to his strengths at all, he was very good for Newcastle at early high balls around the box, he battles defenders very well but doesn't get too do this often enough.
Genie Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Which looks the worse deal, £35m for Carrol or £50m for Torres? Torres, easily. Remember, Liverpool used the money from Torres and Babel to buy Carroll and Suarez. While Carroll has hardly been value for money, at least it was Chelsea's money Liverpool were spending. I reckon Chelsea could move Torres on for £25m - £30m even in poor form. Who is going to buy Carroll for anything above £10m? Torres at least has proved he has it in him at the highest level. Carroll hasn't even got that (plus he's a woman beating thug).
Shillzz Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 I actually think Carroll was the worst deal out of the 2. Chelsea were buying a world class player and paying about 50% over the odds because it was the last day of the transfer window, and it was from a direct rival who didnt want to sell. In Carrol, Liverpool bought a player who wasnt even international class, and never has been. They probably paid 3 times his real value in that transfer. Atleast with Torres, you know there's a brilliant player in there somewhere, it's just up to him and Chelsea to find it. With Carrol, there's little evidence to suggest that he's any better than the likes of John Carew.
GarethRDR Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 They don't play to his strengths at all, he was very good for Newcastle at early high balls around the box, he battles defenders very well but doesn't get too do this often enough. Ironically, the way we're "playing" at the moment he'd almost be perfect.
DiegoD Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Not really, at Newcastle had players next to Carol to go for the second ball, in our team he would be all alone.
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