Neil Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 [The young ones are good not great they won't win us games bent is not great top 5 no way ... And everything you say here on in is both null and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 The key to this is consistency and Moyes consistently delivers with limited resources. He may be seen as a 'safe' choice, however given recent events, I'd say he's the only logical choice. Thats a fair point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 If they put the same amount of effort into finding a manager as they do trying to keep it secret we might get somewhere. It's silly and over the top, they are appointing a football manager not plotting to kill Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Anyone else feel that the board will go back to others on their shortlist and reconsider some they may have jumped past or have already spoken to e.g. Rafa etc.Or maybe have another crack at managers that have allegedly turned them down (e.g. Ancelotti) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I don't need to prove what I have n dont to u but remember this it's a open forum n if I think we dont look like a ambitions club I will say it open ur eyes n see what have we got that a manager from any club would want to come here? Aston Villa have created more England internationals than any other club. Randy has already shown he is willing to make huge investments on and off the pitch for Villa. We have signed one of the best strikers in the world only 5 months ago. Our player of the season is back in the England squad and showing signs of having yet another massive season next year. Current first-team squad members Albrighton, Delfouneso, Hogg, Barry Bannan, Clarke, Herd and Lichaj have all come through the Academy and reserve set-up at Villa Park under the guidance of Villa legends Tony McAndrew, Kevin MacDonald and Gordon Cowans. These are just a handful of the current team members - do you want a list of others? We have facilities that other clubs can only dream of - built by the Chairman that loves this club. Randy must be an absolute delight to work for. We have a Director posting on this very forum, because they care about us, the fans. After all this, you honestly think no managers want to join our Great Club are unable to find a single positive thing to write about? Believe me, we are turning down far more managers wanting the priviliedge to manage us than the other way round. You can continue to spout out the nonsense that comes from your fingertips, but it is nonsense and anyone with half a brain can see that. And you can't get business degrees with half a brain. The young ones are good not great they won't win us games bent is not great top 5 no way Club has done loads but the squad is thin no stars young gone downing going soon don't look like we have a massive budget either Compare to top clubs they are splashing the cash last year to do so we need to or we will always be a mid table club n I don't want that I do have a brain I just see things different to u don't make me not have what I have said these are my thoughts my feelings about my club right now Are you using your business degree to calculate our summer budget that you write so poorly about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Anyone else feel that the board will go back to others on their shortlist and reconsider some they may have jumped past or have already spoken to e.g. Rafa etc. I really hope so rafa with cash could change villa I still want rijkard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_loes Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 One of the major pluses of getting Moyes would be the reinstatement of our ability to hold onto our players! I wouldn't be so hopeful on that score as its a question of money. There isn't a manger on the planet that would have persuaded Ash to stay as he's being reportedly offered 120k a week. Around double what he gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 who do you want, woodytom? I wanted Martinez mate. Got quite excited about him actually. A poor mans Mourinho Right now, theres nobody that excites me! you would prefer martinez over moyes? that makes no sense to me at all Well, personality for a start! When we were linked with Martinez everyone was saying why? he hasnt won anything?? Why arent we asking the same question with Moyes?? No they weren't, they were asking what has he achieved. two 16th place finishes isn't exactly a record that would make people say 'he can take us forward' ...people weren't saying what's he won at all. If he had finished 12th and 9th with Wigan, I bet helluva lot more fans would have loved Martinez. ok, my bad - if thats what they were saying. But again same question applies? In the time Martinez has been managing (3 years) hes achieved a promotion with Swansea and no doubt achieved his season goals at Wigan, whilst reducing the wage bill quite considerably. On the other hand, Moyes nearly got to the champions league, an Fa cup final - 2 other very good finishes. 2 quite atrocious finishes for Everton and then the rest where they probably should be. Im unaware of his time at Preston tbh. No one seems to acknowledge that whilst Martinez hasnt really achieved greatness, hes only been at it 3 years!! Everton before David Moyes: 15th, 17th, 14th 13th, 16th, 15th. Since Moyes: 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th ....so to say ...11th is atrocious ....and 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th ...where they should be is also IMO very wrong. Wigan before Martinez ....10th, 17th, 14th, 11th .... since Martinez, 16th, 16th. So while I think he's a talented manager for the future ....you're being extremely one sided in your view Martinez has done some sort of good job while David Moyes has done nothing. bloody hell, your one sad individual :winkold: Right, Im not for one second suggesting Martinez has done an exceptional job! on the other hand, Im not for one second suggesting Moyes hasnt done a good job! I am basically saying, DO David Moyes' achievements (when you consider length of time hes been manager, size of club (foundations etc), quality of players (something he has to be given credit for)), outweigh the achievements Martinez has had (again when you consider time, clubs hes been at etc) so so much, that it would be unthinkable to question them (Moyes achievements), baring in mind we questioned Martinez's. Yes, because Moyes has took a struggling club and with good man management, astute buying/selling and made them into a regular top 7 finish team. Martinez has took over Wigan, mid table and managed to keep them up twice. Yes Moyes has had more time but in his 2 years, Martinez hasn't over achieved which you need to do at a smaller club to show you are ready. You can't finish where you're supposed to finish every year and then expect to get a job at a much bigger team. Yes Moyes now doesn't over achieve, only simply because he made them into a club that makes you think a top 8 finish is nothing to them when in fact, before him, they would have killed for just a top 10 finish. Moyes is proven successful, Martinez isn't. He could be, but why would we pick a manager who could once become similar level to Moyes, when we could just get Moyes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I don't need to prove what I have n dont to u but remember this it's a open forum n if I think we dont look like a ambitions club I will say it open ur eyes n see what have we got that a manager from any club would want to come here? Aston Villa have created more England internationals than any other club. Randy has already shown he is willing to make huge investments on and off the pitch for Villa. We have signed one of the best strikers in the world only 5 months ago. Our player of the season is back in the England squad and showing signs of having yet another massive season next year. Current first-team squad members Albrighton, Delfouneso, Hogg, Barry Bannan, Clarke, Herd and Lichaj have all come through the Academy and reserve set-up at Villa Park under the guidance of Villa legends Tony McAndrew, Kevin MacDonald and Gordon Cowans. These are just a handful of the current team members - do you want a list of others? We have facilities that other clubs can only dream of - built by the Chairman that loves this club. Randy must be an absolute delight to work for. We have a Director posting on this very forum, because they care about us, the fans. After all this, you honestly think no managers want to join our Great Club are unable to find a single positive thing to write about? Believe me, we are turning down far more managers wanting the priviliedge to manage us than the other way round. You can continue to spout out the nonsense that comes from your fingertips, but it is nonsense and anyone with half a brain can see that. And you can't get business degrees with half a brain. The young ones are good not great they won't win us games bent is not great top 5 no way Club has done loads but the squad is thin no stars young gone downing going soon don't look like we have a massive budget either Compare to top clubs they are splashing the cash last year to do so we need to or we will always be a mid table club n I don't want that I do have a brain I just see things different to u don't make me not have what I have said these are my thoughts my feelings about my club right now Are you using your business degree to calculate our summer budget that you write so poorly about? Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 There was a **** idiot on the Talksport phone in yesterday saying Villa should appoint Van Basten! Probably the same idiots who think we could attract Van Gaal. Get a **** grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Fickle fans picking up on way I write get a life you sad clearing in the woods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I feel like I need a translator, does anyone have the phone number of Dappy from N-Dubz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I feel like I need a translator, does anyone have the phone number of Dappy from N-Dubz? Yeh ask ur mum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_loes Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 There was a **** idiot on the Talksport phone in yesterday saying Villa should appoint Van Basten! Probably the same idiots who think we could attract Van Gaal. Get a **** grip. I would have sounded out van Gaal just in case though wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNichollsToe Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Mcleish now favorate - SSN :oops: Dream ticket would be him and Maclaren has coach Im on record as saying he could do a job for us, but on reflection, hes a member of the unwashed, and i dont want to see people like Bowyer and Marlon King at my great club. We need a big hitter, or i can see a massive backlash on the horizon :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about. It is however, probably somehow slating one of the best clubs and boards in the world. Wind-up bluenoses aren't welcome here. Go crawl back under your rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 McLeish is a big no no for me. I would probably take Martinez over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about. It is however, probably somehow slating one of the best clubs and boards in the world. Wind-up bluenoses aren't welcome here. Go crawl back under your rock. I don't think he's a bluenose mate, just genuinely thick. Which in that case, 'could' make him a bluenose. The plot thickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNichollsToe Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about. It is however, probably somehow slating one of the best clubs and boards in the world. Wind-up bluenoses aren't welcome here. Go crawl back under your rock. Any type of Small Heath scum is not welcome here. Aint they got an uncle or aunt to shag :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yeh I am...... We will see end of august we would give rafa 30 million even after youngs transfer would be more than half that shows what we have available so no I am going by what I hear n I will wait n see august 30 I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about. It is however, probably somehow slating one of the best clubs and boards in the world. Wind-up bluenoses aren't welcome here. Go crawl back under your rock. Remember cum end august and all you are crying we spent no cash I say a big **** you as i am not a bluenose just can't see us spending big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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