AVFC_Hitz Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Root should be able to grab his double ton before we declare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 20, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2013 The main purpose is winning the game not individual achievements. Ok they should be able to bowl the Aussies out in 5 and a half sessions but why not give ourselves as much time as possible. Yeah I have figured out the purpose of the game. And you already answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 But if Root gets 200 for England against Australia at Lords this early in his career it might do so much for his confidence it can only be good for his career. I don't know enough about Root at this stage, but if he is a confidence player then he will feel ten feet tall when he hits 200, and as a captain you can't pass up chances to make things like that happen. Man management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 But if Root gets 200 for England against Australia at Lords this early in his career it might do so much for his confidence it can only be good for his career. I don't know enough about Root at this stage, but if he is a confidence player then he will feel ten feet tall when he hits 200, and as a captain you can't pass up chances to make things like that happen. Man management. Exactamundo, the guy's 22 he's probably on cloud 9 right now. Getting the majority of the runs that sunk the Aussies at Lords has to be a massive boost to your confidence. Also, in the future when he's getting chin music from the Indians or Saffers, he'll dig deep, say to himself "I got 200 against the Aussies at Lords, **** you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Great knock from Root but for me England should declare overnight and probably should have done so in the evening. They should give themselves every opportunity to win the game as quickly as possible. All the talk of 5 and half session being enough is probably true but let's face it, if England haven't wrapped things up by tea on Monday then they'll have a sweat on. Just get the job done and start planning for Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 20, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2013 Theres another good reason to not declare overnight, the new ball is due and the Aussies will probably take it first thing, that also gives us a chance to see how the pitch performs with the new ball before declaring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Great knock from Root but for me England should declare overnight and probably should have done so in the evening. They should give themselves every opportunity to win the game as quickly as possible. All the talk of 5 and half session being enough is probably true but let's face it, if England haven't wrapped things up by tea on Monday then they'll have a sweat on. Just get the job done and start planning for Old Trafford. If England declare overnight and they haven't wrapped it up by tea on Monday, Australia would be very close to 550, How likely is that? Let Root make his 200, if we can't bowl the Aussies out in the fourth Innings in just under two days we don't deserve to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Really I doubt whether making 200 is going to make a massive difference to Root's career. Ok I agree that Cook being the safety first captain he is he will bat on in the morning. I think the test will come for Root when he goes through a bad spell. All batsman go through it. Cook did before the last Ashes in Australia. Bell was dropped in 2009 but then went on to have a magnificent 2 years before Ajmal destroyed his confidence. This is a woeful Australian side compared to 2005. Even the bowling is pretty lightweight. Edited July 20, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 But if Root gets 200 for England against Australia at Lords this early in his career it might do so much for his confidence it can only be good for his career. As Geoffrey Boycott said of Root on TMS when the 200 question was posed "He doesn't need extra confidence, he was born in Yorkshire so he will have plenty of confidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Didn't he also say Root will get more hundreds than Sachin Tendulkar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Didn't he also say Root will get more hundreds than Sachin Tendulkar. At Lords. Tendulkar never made a century at Lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 surely 178 is enough confidence? He'd be fine. That said, I have no problems with England batting an hour or so in the morning if they fancy. This Aussie batting line up is shit. They'll bat better than first innings sure, but I'd be surprised if they made more than 250 odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 There's also something to be said for setting a massive target for the Aussies, one they know they have to break all sorts of records to reach. They'll go out to bat knowing they're already beaten, and the final result is a massive demoralising defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 The Aussies will be lucky to reach 150. I just cannot see them winning once over the whole series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 surely 178 is enough confidence? He'd be fine. That said, I have no problems with England batting an hour or so in the morning if they fancy. This Aussie batting line up is shit. They'll bat better than first innings sure, but I'd be surprised if they made more than 250 odd. A double century is a career defining moment though. I'd certainly let him bat for it if I were captain and had two full days left to play with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'd definitely let Root go for the double hundred. This Australian team have no idea how to bat to play for a draw. They'll most likely get all our in 2 sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Oh I agree, and I think he'll nab it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 surely 178 is enough confidence? He'd be fine. That said, I have no problems with England batting an hour or so in the morning if they fancy. This Aussie batting line up is shit. They'll bat better than first innings sure, but I'd be surprised if they made more than 250 odd. A double century is a career defining moment though. I'd certainly let him bat for it if I were captain and had two full days left to play with. It's also a name in a record book. He can go home after a bad day and look at that record on the Lords honours list and feel better. 178* only lives in the memory. (And the century scorers honours list of course, but that's a much longer list) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Unlucky Root. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 21, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2013 There you go, Root out and they declare. Time to let the bowlers at them. Unlucky kid but fantastic knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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