TrentVilla Posted June 11, 2010 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2010 Mbark Boussoufa Have you actually seen him play? I haven't so I can't comment. Steven Defour Not a chance would we get him or get him for £20 Miguel Veloso Not convinced he is as good as Milner Jamie O'Hara Seriously? As good or better than Milner? Please. Nuri Sahin Not seen enough of him to judge but not sure we'd get him João Moutinho Definately too optimistic Stephen Ireland Based on form of 2 years ago maybe but why if its a sure thing do City want Milner??? Van Der Vaart We've already tried and failed Sorry but as I think this list shows its really not that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think Ireland would be a good (and realistic) replacement. But he doesn't have the work rate of Milner - which has almost acted like a 13th player for Villa (after the Holte being the 12th ) O'Hara has looked decent at times but I don't think he's anywhere near the quality of Milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Remember only in this country Thats the stumbling block mate Yup. From your list above MON will only probably consider O'Hara and Ireland, neither who are better than Milner especially not O'Hara. So now you see its not such a great plan to lose him. See my post 2 above :cry: I would argue that Ireland is on a par, and O'Hara has the potential and is as good as Milner, he's as good as Milner was it the same age. O'Hara is one year younger than Milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Remember only in this country Thats the stumbling block mate Yup. From your list above MON will only probably consider O'Hara and Ireland, neither who are better than Milner especially not O'Hara. So now you see its not such a great plan to lose him. See my post 2 above :cry: I would argue that Ireland is on a par, and O'Hara has the potential and is as good as Milner, he's as good as Milner was it the same age. O'Hara is one year younger than Milner. And your point is? Milner was an average Prem player at Newcastle wasnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 O'Hara is one year younger than Milner. And your point is? Milner was an average Prem player at Newcastle wasnt he? Milner had scored goals at the age of 16/17 against top premier league clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Steven Defour Not a chance would we get him or get him for £20 I'd agree that £20 would be a bit cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Mbark Boussoufa Have you actually seen him play? I haven't so I can't comment. Steven Defour Not a chance would we get him or get him for £20 Miguel Veloso Not convinced he is as good as Milner Jamie O'Hara Seriously? As good or better than Milner? Please. Nuri Sahin Not seen enough of him to judge but not sure we'd get him João Moutinho Definately too optimistic Stephen Ireland Based on form of 2 years ago maybe but why if its a sure thing do City want Milner??? Van Der Vaart We've already tried and failed Sorry but as I think this list shows its really not that simple. Jonathan De Guzman is on a Bosman and is as good as Milner or maybe an ambitious swoop for Kim Kallstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 And your point is? Milner was an average Prem player at Newcastle wasnt he? :? You are saying the Milner of season 2008/2009 was the same level as O'Hara is now? I really don't think so, he's miles off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is a joke right???? O'Hara and Ireland are nowhere near the footballer that James Milner is in all aspects of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is a joke right???? O'Hara and Ireland are nowhere near the footballer that James Milner is in all aspects of the game Dont be silly! You talk like Milner is a world class player, hes not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is a joke right???? O'Hara and Ireland are nowhere near the footballer that James Milner is in all aspects of the game Dont be silly! You talk like Milner is a world class player, hes not! When did i say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. So why arent we talking about just a straight swap then? If there equal surely we dont need 20million as well as Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. So why arent we talking about just a straight swap then? If there equal surely we dont need 20million as well as Ireland? Because football isn't that childishly simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. So why arent we talking about just a straight swap then? If there equal surely we dont need 20million as well as Ireland? Because football isn't that childishly simple. Would you be happy with a straight swap Risso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 11, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 11, 2010 Irelands work rate and drive is no where near as good as Milners. But Ireland has a bit more creative spark IMO. But... I think we need Milner more then we need Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. So why arent we talking about just a straight swap then? If there equal surely we dont need 20million as well as Ireland? Because football isn't that childishly simple. Would you be happy with a straight swap Risso? No, because Man City obviously value James Milner much more highly than they do Ireland. The fact they've got ridiculous amounts of money to spend doesn't mean that their valuation of players is correct. They got rid of Dunne for a pittance, and spunked £24m on Lescott, does that sound like a good deal to you? If they make the same mistake two years running by letting Ireland go cheap and spending way over the odds on Milner, more fool them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is a joke right???? O'Hara and Ireland are nowhere near the footballer that James Milner is in all aspects of the game Dont be silly! You talk like Milner is a world class player, hes not! When did i say that? You dont need to write it out mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is a joke right???? O'Hara and Ireland are nowhere near the footballer that James Milner is in all aspects of the game Dont be silly! You talk like Milner is a world class player, hes not! When did i say that? You dont need to write it out mate But I dont think that, I dont even think hes Villa's best player although he probably had the best season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think that Ireland is every bit as good as Milner, and has the advantage of having that extra spark of creativity that Milner lacks. The thought of a Petrov/ Ireland central pair scares the shit out of me... that is one half paced midfield right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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