Troglodyte Posted June 9, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2010 Can you tell me what looks fake about it? That's an honest question. I'll admit I have a very untrained eye so I may not be able to spot what makes it so obviously fake. I remember palletgate. Everyone thought that shirt looked fake. it wasn't. It all just seems a bit strange. The logo looks very flat and I'm not sure on the colours matching with the shirt. I'd also assume that they wouldn't have the little slogan underneath (they just have 'FxPro' on the F1 cars they sponsor, for example). It's also a bit odd that it's on last year's away kit. Yes it'll probably be next year's third but it still doesn't seem quite right. But as I said, I'm no expert either and I could be totally wrong! I'll just be happy if we have a sponsor and a bit more money going into the club. I'm just feeling that it's going to be Acorns again this year (not that I'd be disappointed with that, either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Can you tell me what looks fake about it? That's an honest question. I'll admit I have a very untrained eye so I may not be able to spot what makes it so obviously fake. I remember palletgate. Everyone thought that shirt looked fake. it wasn't. It's the material, and the way the fabric bunches up around the crest and Nike logo. It looks cheap and horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Its the deliberate fuzziness of the photo that makes it look photoshopped. its as if the person has made the picture fuzzy as hell to cover up the photoshopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 If we have done a deal with this company and they are to be the new sponsors, I would suspect that the shirt we have seen is a mock up, rushed through to show what 'it could look like'. Remember, up until 2 weeks ago we were still no nearer finding a sponsor so I would hazard a guess that this is a rush job to present in meetings between Villa and a potential new investor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 A couple of thoughts on alleged sponsor. Isn't foreign exchange predition just another form of highly speculative gambling at which a lot of amateurs loose their money? Randy thought a gambling sponsor (32 red)was unsuitable when he took over at AVFC and I doubt his opinion has changed. Also do premiership rules allow for a sponsors logo and their company slogan to go on the shirt? I thought it was LOGO only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Looks real enough to me. The fuzziness is obv cos it's taken on a shitty cameraphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Trade Forex like a pro... My first impression is that it's a fake, or at least not the final draft. But, I don't like it. It's a bit of an imposition to put a catchphrase under the actual sponsor. I haven't seen it done before I don't think. Should be OK just to have the brand name really. Tacky otherwise. If I were to guess I'd say that Villa rep brought a new shirt template to the meet. Forex brought a trademark. They put them together and a photo was taken. Then Villa will say no to the tagline, Forex will go away again and produce a new logo. And then we'll see the real thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 9, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2010 Isn't it the case that, as long as it meets Premier League rules, it's the sponsor who decides what goes on the shirt if they've paid for it? So if we've made a deal with FxPro, they can put that slogan there if they want it there. Again that's not rhetorical, I geuninely don't know. As for it being fake, I can believe that it's not the final shirt or it's just something that's been knocked up to see what it looks like. It was the posts that siad "obvious photoshop" that annoyed me. Again I have an untrained eye but to me it looks very much not to be a photoshop. The material crumples slightly around the sponsor. The sponsor isn't flat, it moves with the material. It's not just some stock photo that someone's altered. Anyway, I think I'd go along with the theory that it's a real shirt, but might not be the final shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeefy14 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Faker than jordans tits. Steve it does not react naturally with the crumples on the shirt, zoom in and have another look. My nan could've shopped that. 50 quid to acorns if its real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 9, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2010 Well fair play to your "man". If (s)he can make a "take" shirt that looks that good then good work. I have zoomed in and to me (again an untrained eye) it does react to the crumples on the shirt. This just all seems to me, again, like palletgate. "hmmm, this shirt isn't quite what we're expecting. it can only mean one thing... FAAAAAAAAAAAKE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Isn't it the case that, as long as it meets Premier League rules, it's the sponsor who decides what goes on the shirt if they've paid for it? So if we've made a deal with FxPro, they can put that slogan there if they want it there. Again that's not rhetorical, I geuninely don't know. As for it being fake, I can believe that it's not the final shirt or it's just something that's been knocked up to see what it looks like. It was the posts that siad "obvious photoshop" that annoyed me. Again I have an untrained eye but to me it looks very much not to be a photoshop. The material crumples slightly around the sponsor. The sponsor isn't flat, it moves with the material. It's not just some stock photo that someone's altered. Anyway, I think I'd go along with the theory that it's a real shirt, but might not be the final shirt. I don't know either :? but I don't think I've seen a logo and slogan before, although I'm sure other sponsors have short punchy slogans that they would love to display. I seem to remember some discussion about having the words "childrens hospice" under the ACORNS logo. Whether the use of ACORNS alone was because of Premiership rules or sensitivity I really don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 If that's is a photoshop it's a damn good one because I can see nothing in the picture to indicate that it is. The photo itself was taken on a BlackBerry Curve 8520 with a 2 megapixel camera. It hasn't been resaved in any image editing software from what I can tell but that isn't to say that they haven't masked the meta data encoded in the image. Also there is no guarantee that the shirt itself hasn't been faked, i.e: somebody may have removed the Acorns and screen printed on the Forex. However I couldn't imagine anyone going to that much trouble. I am about 90% sure this is real. Whether it's the finished product or just a sample produced as part of the sponsor negotiation process remains to be seen. Also it must be said I like the cuffs on the shirt Dan is wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncy_chris Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Although it does look pretty fake to me, this sponsor (Forex Pro) do seem to be very well positioned for corporate sponsorship of sports teams. Make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Isn't it the case that, as long as it meets Premier League rules, it's the sponsor who decides what goes on the shirt if they've paid for it? So if we've made a deal with FxPro, they can put that slogan there if they want it there. Again that's not rhetorical, I geuninely don't know. As for it being fake, I can believe that it's not the final shirt or it's just something that's been knocked up to see what it looks like. It was the posts that siad "obvious photoshop" that annoyed me. Again I have an untrained eye but to me it looks very much not to be a photoshop. The material crumples slightly around the sponsor. The sponsor isn't flat, it moves with the material. It's not just some stock photo that someone's altered. Anyway, I think I'd go along with the theory that it's a real shirt, but might not be the final shirt. What I spotted was that on the top horizontal line of the "F", there seems to be a bit of dark shading in the middle which joins up with a crease in the shirt (if you look directly above the "F"). It's pretty small (and proves I'm a geek) but I could see this being a mock up of the shirt done by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Doesn't look like a fake to me. Then again like Stevo, i'm no expert in this field. Not sure what I think personally, would have to see it on the other kits first. Don't like the slogan though underneath the brand name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 That's one crap slogan that company has. I'd be embarrassed if that was really on the shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted June 9, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2010 I think slogans are legal... the name/logo for Emirates isn't "Fly Emirates" (as appears on the Arsenal shirts) , it's just Emirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 9, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2010 All Ian's done is posted the photo that someone sent him. How is he talking out of his arse in this scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I seem to remember the guy used to post loads of shit stories that were unfounded and funnily enough ended up on the shit heap. He had photographs a few years back of a new top which was a load of old cobblers as well. It was always with potential football kits and transfers if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 If that is the kit I don't like the red writing on it at all. Especially on that shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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