Dr_Pangloss Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So I guess they'll do it again? I think it's unlikely. Doubt the appetite is there, Kovalev really ought to take on other challenges. Ward has talked about moving to Cruiserweight or even Heavyweight (LOL). Personally I'd like to see Ward fight Stevenson and Beterbiev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Kovalev was robbed. Absolutely disgrace, ward should not be proud of this. Disgraceful with his low blows. the ref was pathetic to stop this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) What I would say is that there's something clearly lacking in Kovalev's mentality. Yes the low blows throughout were awful, but rather than complain to the ref, and even in one or two circumstances turned his back, he should have got on with it and just gone and hit Ward low a few times. For someone called 'Krusher' he didn't really show the killer instinct and that's frankly what he needed. He appears to give up some what when he realises it's hard to hit Ward clean with the right hand, he doesn't appear to want to be there, even though he has all the skills to beat Ward (and beat Ward the first time around IMO). His trainer John Davidson Jackson didn't even seem all that bothered after the fight, which speaks to the rumours that they do not have a good relationship. Word has it JDJ doesn't get along with Kovalev because he doesn't like Kovalev's application (or lack there of) to the sport. It's suggested that Kovalev does not 'live the life' of the boxer, that he drinks heavily and likes to enjoy himself. If you want to fight at a high level at 34 years old + it's not something you can afford to do. Thinking of all the fights I've seen of Kovalev I guess there were some red flags about his conditioning, even in the Cleverley fight he got very tired by the fourth round and was pushing a lot of his punches before he nailed Cleverley with the left hand, then of course you had the massive drop off in energy in the Ward fight, he did of course go the distance with Hopkins but Hopkins barely threw a punch in that fight. Edited June 18, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What I found interesting was them saying he could outbox Joshua. Maybe but if Joshua hits ward he isn't getting up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) Ward putting on 2 stone to get to 14.5st Vs 18st joshua would be risking his life and other than a bag of money there would be nothing that could be gained from that fight for either of them. There seems to be more & more fights at catchweights outside of traditional weight divisions lately but once you are a heavyweight the size of Joshua there really isn't anywhere for you to come down to. a good big un should always beat a good little un.... * Apart from this time obviously.... Edited June 18, 2017 by LakotaDakota 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: What I found interesting was them saying he could outbox Joshua. Maybe but if Joshua hits ward he isn't getting up Joshua would murder him, just walk through him and smash him into oblivion, would be utter madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Joshua would murder him, just walk through him and smash him into oblivion, would be utter madness. If like to see that after wards cowardly low shots yesterday. I'd be embarrassed of that win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Quote Andre Ward says he would be open to a move up to heavyweight and has hinted at a possible clash against world champion Anthony Joshua. The unbeaten American retained his world light-heavyweight titles on Saturday after a stoppage victory over Sergey Kovalev in their rematch in Las Vegas. Ward first stepped up from the super-middleweight ranks to face the Russian last November and the 33-year-old has now admitted a bout against the WBA and IBF heavyweight champion could tempt him to make the step up to the top division. "I always seem to be knocking down giants one by one," Ward said. "Heavyweight, that's always been a dream of mine. It's got to be against the right guy, but I dream big and anything is possible." Ward took his unbeaten record to 32-0 with victory over Kovalev Ward added: "He [Ward's trainer Virgil Hunter] has always been setting the bar high, that is the essence of our team right there. "That man will have me believing things that I never even thought of. Like, 'Anthony Joshua, really?' and it will make perfect sense to him. So we'll see." Hunter first suggested the idea of Ward facing Joshua and believes his man has the attributes to outbox the British knockout specialist. Joshua has not fought since defeating Wladimir Klitschko in April at Wembley Ward would also not be the first fighter to make the leap, with the legendary Roy Jones Jr having moved up from the light-heavyweight division in 2003 to defeat John Ruiz for the WBA heavyweight title. "Fighting a bigger man doesn't have to do with size, it has to do with your attributes and their attributes," Hunter said. "If you are able to single out one thing that makes it a competitive fight for yourself, you take that chance. Ward took his unbeaten record to 32-0 with victory over Kovalev "I'd like to see him fight Anthony Joshua. I'm not playing, I'm serious. I think it would be a very interesting fight. I believe he could outbox Anthony Joshua. "There's some things about Joshua that I see. He's a good kid, I know him, but I see things with him in particular and he is the best [of the heavyweight champions], but styles make fights. "It would be a waste of time to go to the cruiserweights, we should just leapfrog it, go for it all." Clicky ! I am not sure if he is brave or an idiot, but surely he cant be serious. Joshua's power is insane and the guy is a complete man mountain. Ward would have no chance. Part of me wants it to happen after his actions in this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If he wants to seriously move up to heavyweight then maybe he should take a look at Bellew, Bellew wants a big money fight and after beating Kov twice on the bounce maybe he will shift a few more tickets than normal, especially with the sky media machine rolling on behind him in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: If he wants to seriously move up to heavyweight then maybe he should take a look at Bellew, Bellew wants a big money fight and after beating Kov twice on the bounce maybe he will shift a few more tickets than normal, especially with the sky media machine rolling on behind him in the background. Was thinking this earlier. Bellew would be a good fight for ward, if he beats him then maybe a shot at Joshua? But why doesn't he go for wilder? About time wilder fights some real fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Ward is just too small. Bellew yes, that's an easy win for Ward but he is far too small for the 'super' heavyweights who dominate the division. He should fight Stevenson and then give Cruiserweight a go. Not convinced he beats Usyk, I'd make Usyk the favourite in that. People have to recognise that a large part of Ward's game is physical, he roughs you up on the inside and wrestles with you, that will not be an option for him even at Crusierweight, so one of his best assets is instantly negated. Edited June 20, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Quote Anthony Joshua fight was PROMISED to me by Eddie Hearn, claims Deontay Wilder DEONTAY WILDER wants to fight Anthony Joshua - even though Eddie Hearn has offered him £2.35million to take on Dillian Whyte. By JAMES GRAY PUBLISHED: 16:31, Fri, Jun 23, 2017 | UPDATED: 16:42, Fri, Jun 23, 2017 Deontay Wilder wants to fight Anthony Joshua next - and not Dillian Whyte Wilder is the WBC champion and holds one of the two heavyweight belts not in Joshua’s possession after he beat Wladimir Klitschko earlier this year. The Brit is expected to announce a rematch of the epic title bout later this year but should he win, is understood to be ready to unify the division as soon as possible. However, he will likely then have to fight IBF mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev and instead promoter Hearn wants to set Wilder up with another of his British heavyweights. The Matchroom Boxing chief is desperate to get Whyte a shot at a world title and is understood to have tabled an offer worth more than £2m for Wilder to put his WBC belt on the line.a fight would be on the cards. “We both know who I want from England, you told me a while back at the WBC convention that your main man was next, remember?” Wilder wrote on Instagram. “So why have you been trying to throw your cockroaches in with me? “First it was [Tony] Bellew and now it's your dirty c*** Dillian Whyte - man come on. “I tell you what... Make that offer of $3million into $7million and on OUR terms. “Oh it's going to cost you to change my plans of what we about to do up and NO it's not on YOUR terms. “How you [gonna] come with a offer of 3 million and want things on your terms too? “The last time I checked I was the damn CHAMP!” Wilder held his fifth successful defence of the WBC heavyweight tile against Gerald Washington in Alabama in February. Hearn wants the 31-year-old to cross the Atlantic for his next defence but Wilder, who has fought all his last seven bouts in the US, sees no reason to travel to London to face Whyte. "If you're serious get your master Eddie Hearn to follow the procedures and get the fight made," Wilder told Whyte in an Instagram post.GETTY Anthony Joshua was brilliant in his win over Wladimir Klitschko ”He bought a fresh champion in Charles Martin's IBF Belt so let's see him come and buy mine! "Please do the Brits a favor and come and shut this American WBC champion up because how I see it, it's USA vs Everybody! "The takeover has begun. Now [you] think it's a game [just] watch me stand over your body as the gun smoke clears.” Just click it Have to say Wilder really does need to man up and fight some names as he hasn't really beaten anyone brilliant. He would probably beat Bellew and Whyte but they will be more challenging than some of the bums he has fought. Why doesn't he call out Tyson Fury? If Fury gets his license back go for him? As Joshua's next few fights are taken this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Lomachenko vs Rigondeux on the cards, can't wait, will be at 130lbs, which clearly favours Lomachenko. I expect an extremely high level chess match but Lomachenko to win by stoppage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Nigel Benn and Steve Collins have agreed to fight later on this year. Benn is 53 and Collins 52 and Benn hasn't fought since Collins beat him for the second time in 1996 and Collins hasn't fought for 20 years. Both great fighters in their prime but these dogs have both had their day a long time ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Nigel Benn and Steve Collins have agreed to fight later on this year. Benn is 53 and Collins 52 and Benn hasn't fought since Collins beat him for the second time in 1996 and Collins hasn't fought for 20 years. Both great fighters in their prime but these dogs have both had their day a long time ago. What's next Holyfield vs Tyson ? God I wanna watch this as much as a game of tiddlywinks ! on more interesting boxing news that isn't to do with washed up has beens, bellew is confirming talks to fight Andre ward. Now that would be a interesting fight. Bellew can be a handful, but I think ward will outbox him and win that should it happen Edited June 29, 2017 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, markavfc40 said: Nigel Benn and Steve Collins have agreed to fight later on this year. Benn is 53 and Collins 52 and Benn hasn't fought since Collins beat him for the second time in 1996 and Collins hasn't fought for 20 years. Both great fighters in their prime but these dogs have both had their day a long time ago. Given Collins had to retire on medical grounds this really doesn't seem like a good idea at all. Edited June 29, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Given Collins had to retire on medical grounds this really doesn't seem like a good idea at all. Seems unlikely the British boxing board will licence it but they have already said they will go abroad if need be. Collins was going to come back in 1999 but decided against it after collapsing in sparring. This is a just a bad idea all round and clearly just a way of making a few quid which in fairness Collins has acknowledged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 9 hours ago, markavfc40 said: Seems unlikely the British boxing board will licence it but they have already said they will go abroad if need be. Collins was going to come back in 1999 but decided against it after collapsing in sparring. This is a just a bad idea all round and clearly just a way of making a few quid which in fairness Collins has acknowledged. Wow didnt know that. Guys crazy if thats the case. Benn should not be encouraging him either. If this happens no doubt eubanks gonna do a epic return that im sure the population of zero wants to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Ohara Davies V Josh Taylor tonight on channel 5 Not a massive fight but it's still boxing. Also noticed Callum Smith has entered the Super Series with George Groves. Strange decision i thought he was nailed on to fight Dirrell for the vacant WBC. Edited July 8, 2017 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 hours ago, AshVilla said: Ohara Davies V Josh Taylor tonight on channel 5 Not a massive fight but it's still boxing. Also noticed Callum Smith has entered the Super Series with George Groves. Strange decision i thought he was nailed on to fight Dirrell for the vacant WBC. Not a massive fight but one that was a mouthwatering prospect for boxing fans, majority of people wouldn't be interested even if they did know it was on TV but I know that plenty of people were really looking forward to it. Taylor was brilliant, digging in the early body shots and his footwork was cracking, Davies was having some success to the body in the 5th and was then buzzed with two big right hands, Davies just didn't seem to be able to hurt him. The Callum Smith thing isn't that strange of a decision, the winner takes the lions share of £50m I think, no small change there and it'll certainly raise his profile no end if he was to win so he'd walk into a world title fight afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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