Brumstopdogs Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Usual Guff only 2 league titles.....ever Huddersfield Town have won more Nuff said Have Spurs really only won the league twice?!? That's crazy, how can they call themselves a "big club" if that is the case?? We all know it and most other fans know it! They were also runners up a whopping 4 times - I think the last one was back before England won the World Cup though To be fair to them they've spent 47 years as a non top flight team so maybe comparing the 2 main competitions isn't fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2010 I don't hate Spurs. In fact, I quite like them. I don't really get the hate in this thread (though I have probably contributed in a bit of Glaston teasing, which tends to be more about him than his club) and it seems to be that the anti Spurs sentiment on VT is more about Harry Redknapp not having a sense of humour when Villa fans gave him shit after the corruption allegations on the BBC than anything else. Maybe its just who you mix with. My work takes me to London on a daily basis and a lot of my colleagues who are based in London are Spurs fans, and they are decent blokes so I base my opinion of Spurs fans from then rather than from the internet. I guess if this thread is your main interaction with Spurs fans then your opinion would be different. I know a handful of Spurs fans "in real life", i.e. not on the internet, and they are all top blokes. No problem with them whatsoever. I still hate their club. They know that, I'm honest with them. And when I told them it was largely down to Redknapp their sentiments were "If he wasn't our manager I'd hate him too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Again though, I ask just how much of this Redknapp hate comes from the fact that his first game after the Panorama program alleging he was corrupt was Villa away, and he reacted badly to the ribbing that he was (obviously) subjected to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2010 Does that matter? I hate him because he's an overrated, corrupt, media wanking, Jamie spawning, tapping up, club destroying word removed of a man. If people hate him for other reasons then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Nah, it doesnt matter really. He certainly is smart enough to be friendly with a lot of key people in the media and as a result has them eating out of his hand, but I just cant get behind the hatred of Spurs being put down to crimes Redknapp is alleged to have committed while in charge of Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Blues, Liverpool, Tottenham, Man City, Arsenal. Most hated 5 teams in the Premiership (for me anyway, in that order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Again though, I ask just how much of this Redknapp hate comes from the fact that his first game after the Panorama program alleging he was corrupt was Villa away, and he reacted badly to the ribbing that he was (obviously) subjected to? Not for me. He doesn't give a shit about the teams he manages, if it costs them going bust to give him a decent record there he couldn't care less. He also seems to think he's Gods gift to football management. I certainly wouldn't like Spurs if he wasn't in charge, but it'd be nowhere like the hatred I feel for them while he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2010 I hate Redknapp, but thats less to do with the panorama programme and more to do with the fact i just happen to think the guy is a bit of prat. But I've hated Spurs since before that. My hate for them really came to a boil when they started their resurgence under Jol. I didn't like them before then. But when Jol was successful, and they were hoovering up everything half decent and English, they really got on my tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Just for the record, I hate Newcastle and Man City too. And Spurs. And Birmingham. And especially Liverpool. I severely dislike Chelsea and Arsenal and I'm not keen on Wolves either. I've been known to dislike Man Utd too, but less so than the others. I really don't like Coventry City and I despise the Old Firm clubs. ... Spurs are just one of many wanky 'orrible clubs that I don't like. GlastonSpur and Redknapp are two good reasons to dislike Spurs too. Nothing against Spurs fans though. They're just people, afterall. I don't like 'when the Spurs go marching in' though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonSpur Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 .... Success is measured on trophies won, we have won more. ... Success compared to Spurs can only be fairly measured from the point when Spurs were eligible to compete with Villa for the same league trophies (otherwise you might just as well blame a horse for not winning the Grand National when they weren't even in the starting line-up). The facts show that from that point onwards Spurs have won 16 trophies compared to 11 for Villa. They also show that Spurs have won double the amount of trophies compared to Villa in the last 50 years. Yes, that Villa trophy haul includes a European Cup Winners trophy, but that falls way short of outweighing three European trophies for Spurs and four additional FA Cups compared to Villa since the start of head-to-head competition between the two clubs. In summary: Villa won a lot of trophies when there was not much competition, but after that competition had expanded considerably - including Spurs entering the fray - the Villa trophy haul has been far less compared to Spurs. So by all means bask in the glory of Victorian era success (after all, gaining this is obviously better than not gaining this), but it doesn't change the fact that after Spurs arrived in the league structure our trophy success has been better than Villa's. I actually regard the two clubs as being of similar status, with various plus and minus points for both clubs on both sides of this equation - and I don't claim that Spurs are a bigger or more successful club all things considered. But by the same token I do dispute the silly notion that Villa are the bigger and more successful club ... especially from the point (1908) when any comparison becomes fair and meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted April 5, 2010 Yawn. The success of clubs is not measured against the date in which they were founded Glaston by anyone other than yourself. Your ability to use selective dates to support your theories is quite amazing and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2010 Like Pompey I probably should have said that my ire isn't reserved for just Spurs. I hate pretty much every club in the league at some level. Fulham are about the only club I don't have much of a problem with. But Spurs, Pool, Small Heath, Manchester United, and Citeh retain a special amount of ire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KT3AVFC Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 This whole debate about which club out of Villa and Spurs is the biggest brings back the quote about two bald men fighting over a comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted April 5, 2010 Its a pointless debate I agree not to mention extremely boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Ok Glaston likes to pick dates, well my life time. Weve won; 1 European cup 1 Super Cup 1 League title 3 League Cups Spurs; 3 Fa Cups 2 League cups 1 uefa CUP And finished higher in the league more times. Quite frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2010 My hate for Spurs comes from many things, First one being they're above us in the league! Secondly, i can't stand Harry, not too arsed about his crimes, i just think he's a bit of a prick, i hate the way he speak so freely of other teams players during transfer window. I also hate Spurs purely because they're a cockney club, and the press wank over them all the time. Specially in the transfer window, it's so frustrating. I have a hate for every club in the league really bar Everton. Have a bit of a soft spot for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liono Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Just some of the fans, they seem like cocks, but every club has some. That's my reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 To be fair Spurs probably are the bigger club - bigger fan base, can attract bigger name players due to a bigger budget/turnover and the fact that they are in London. I wouldn't however admit this in real life, I'd argue Villa's history and the many more seasons we've finished above them than they have us in the Premier League make it even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 And then the true and complete facts about Spurs in the main 2 competitions: Tottenham: League: 2 winners and 4 runner ups (6) European Cup: 0 wins. Overall 86 out of 128 years to Villa in totality (not fudged ala Glaston) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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