ender4 Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 The UK Top 40 Music Charts - what do you think? and yes, we are talking about the whole of the top 40, not the top 10. so last weeks chart included a variety such as: Calvin Harris Kings of Leon Miley Cyrus Beyonce Lily Allen Prodigy Just Jack Flo Rida Lady Gaga Pink Britney James Morrison Green Day Franz Ferdinand Girls Aloud Eminem Akon Taylor Swift Enemy
tomzep Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I have gone for some good some bad. I do have to say though my personal taste does tend to linger at the bottom of the chart or be from years gone by so not chartable. Along side these though i usually do like a couple of the top 10 as i can appreciate any well written song and pop music is no exception
ender4 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 my personal taste does tend to linger at the bottom of the chart or be from years gone by so not chartable. years gone by? i bet they were in the chart at the time though... so still chartable, and counts as chart music.
tomzep Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah they were originally in the chart so i suppose they do count
Santa_Rosa Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Mostly bad. KoL, Green Day, The Enemy and The Probably are the only ones that might grace my generic MP3 playing device. The rest can never record anything again from my POV. Incidentally, how do you annoy Lady GaGa? P-p-p poke her face, p-p poke her face. EDIT: Franz Ferd-in-the-hand are alright too.
mjmooney Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 Does this include downloads now? I'd rather assumed that the "singles" chart died a natural death some years ago. Given my old git views I'm not qualified to vote on this, anyway.
dundeevilla Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Does anyone actually bother looking at the singles chart anymore? You only need to sell a dozen copies and you're in at number 3 these days. Do record shops sell singles anymore? Can't remember seeing any for a long while. That 'Flo Rida' song is the worst thing I have heard in many a year, and it's competing with an avalanche of top class contemporary shite for that honour. Maybe I'm just getting old, but pop 'songs' (of the top 40 Lady Gaga, Flo Rida variety) dont even sound like songs to me anymore!
tonyh29 Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I never listen to the radio so i can't really vote ( radio 5 live is about it) I just got bored of hearing the same stuff over and over based on backhanders from the record labels rather than any real talent Last time i checked the Top 40 I think "Hit me baby one more time " was new in at number 1
The_Rev Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I honestly cant remember the last time I cared about the charts. Maybe during the Britpop era. The charts are less relevant these days than they ever were. They arent peoples window into music any more. Bands dont need to be on top of the pops to get their name out there these days. Anyone with an internet connection can find the specific kind of music they want to listen to. Things like LastFM, Spotify and even iTunes Genius are far better tools for getting people into new music they havent heard yet than going down the route of whatever Simon Cowell tells Britain what their #1 record will be. I mean, how **** up has it got when I can predict with confidence that the Christmas number one record for 2009 will be the debut single by someone who wins the X Factor?
BOF Posted May 1, 2009 Moderator Posted May 1, 2009 Dunno what you younguns are listening to these days Though I still can't get bored of the Lady Gaga video. I'd poker face.
Anthony Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 Most recorded music has something of merit in it; it genuinely seems to me that the top 40 is more and more merely a list of those without.
sellyoakvilla Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 A lot of it is shit. Franz Ferdinand, The Enemy, Calvin Harris, Green Day....Kings of Leon (pre Only by the Night)...apart from that nothing grabs my interest
Stevo985 Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 I NEVER check the charts. I couldn't tell you what is number one ever! But from that list I would say some good and some bad, so I voted for that. Calvin Harris - Good Kings of Leon - Amazing Miley Cyrus - wank Beyonce - shit Lily Allen - average Prodigy - very very good Just Jack - meh Flo Rida - hahahaha Lady Gaga - hate her Pink - used to be good, not so much anymore Britney - nope James Morrison - crap Green Day - average Franz Ferdinand - not my cup of tea but they have talent Girls Aloud - I have a secret appreciation for GA Eminem - used to be good, not sure about his new stuff Akon - awful awful awful awful music Taylor Swift - fit, but crap songs Enemy - good I must say, the point of view that all commercial music is shit is something that really annoys me. Yes a lot of it is, but JUST because it is commercially successful doesn't make it shit.
sellyoakvilla Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Well I think we all know who voted for mostly decent music with the huge number of 1 votes
leviramsey Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 Apologies for top posting but when inlining... The UK Top 40 Music Charts - what do you think? and yes, we are talking about the whole of the top 40, not the top 10. so last weeks chart included a variety such as: Calvin Harris - who? Kings of Leon - not interested Miley Cyrus - good God no Beyonce - meh Lily Allen - 1 for 5... barely above the Mendoza line Prodigy - meh Just Jack - who? Flo Rida - an entertaining guest on the Stern show, but musically cack Lady Gaga - good God no Pink - 2 for 10, to get us back above the line Britney - good God no James Morrison - who? Green Day - maybe (I'll score that as a walk) Franz Ferdinand - maybe Girls Aloud - good God no Eminem - meh Akon - not interested Taylor Swift - meh Enemy - who? Voted mostly bad... 2 for 17 is well below the Mendoza line...
leviramsey Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 That said, I'd probably take the UK chart over the US chart(s): Billboard's Hot 100 (which encompasses single sales (both physical and digital) and radio airplay): 1. Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow 2. Lady GaGa - Poker Face 3. Kid Cudi - Day 'N' Nite 4. Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain - Blame It 5. Flo Rida - Right Round 6. Soulja Boy Tell 'em featuring Sammie - Kiss Me Thru the Phone 7. Flo Rida featuring Wynter - Sugar 8. T.I. featuring Justin Timberlake - Dead and Gone 9. Miley Cyrus - The Climb 10. Beyonce - Halo 11. Eminem - We Made You 12. The All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell 13. 3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me 14. Lady GaGa featuring Colby O'Donis - Just Dance 15. The Fray - You Found Me 16. Pitbull - I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) 17. Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You 18. Taylor Swift - Love Story 19. Britney Spears - If U Seek Amy 20. Shinedown - Second Chance 21. Soulja Boy Tell 'em - Turn My Swag On 22. Keri Hilson featuring Lil Wayne - Turnin Me On 23. Jason Mraz - I'm Yours 24. Ciara featuring Justin Timberlake - Love Sex Magic 25. Pink - Sober 26. Keri Hilson featuring Kanye West and Ne-Yo - Knock You Down 27. Jesse McCartney featuring Ludacris - How Do You Sleep? 28. Asher Roth - I Love College 29. Ne-Yo - Mad 30. Jason Aldean - She's Country 31. Akon featuring Colby O'Donis & Kardinal Offishall - Beautiful 32. Miley Cyrus - Hoedown Throwdown 33. Kanye West - Heartless 34. Rascal Flatts - Here Comes Goodbye 35. The Dream - Rockin' that Thang 36. Carrie Underwood featuring Randy Travis - I Told You So 37. Dave Matthews Band - Funny the Way It Is 38. Taylor Swift - Crazier 39. Plain White T's - 1, 2, 3, 4 40. Jeremih - Birthday Sex I haven't heard a single track from that list, and I don't think I'm one bit the poorer for it... Radio & Records CHR airplay chart (which is the one that's used on the chart shows, even though Billboard is the one that's more apt to be considered the real chart) is a bit better, IMO, but not that much so: 1. Lady GaGa - Poker Face 2. Flo Rida - Right Round 3. Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow 4. All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell 5. T.I. featuring Justin Timberlake - Dead and Gone 6. Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You 7. Soulja Boy Tell 'em featuring Sammie - Kiss Me Thru the Phone 8. Jesse McCartney featuring Ludacris - How Do You Sleep? 9. Britney Spears - If U Seek Amy 10. Fray - You Found Me 11. Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain - Blame It 12. Shinedown - Second Chance 13. Beyonce - Halo 14. Miley Cyrus - The Climb 15. Pink - Sober 16. Kid Cudi - Day 'N' Nite 17. 3Oh!3 - Don't Trust Me 18. Ciara featuring Justin Timberlake - Love Sex Magic 19. Lady GaGa featuring Colby O'Donis - Just Dance 20. Flo Rida featuring Wynter - Sugar 21. Britney Spears - Circus 22. Kelly Clarkson - I Do Not Hook Up 23. Akon featuring Colby O'Donis & Kardinal Offishall - Beautiful 24. Matt Nathanson - Come On Get Higher 25. Pink - Please Don't Leave Me 26. Ne-Yo - Mad 27. Eminem - We Made You 28. Pitbull - I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) 29. Kevin Rudolf featuring Rick Ross - Welcome to the World 30. Fall Out Boy - America's Suitehearts 31. Ting Tings - That's Not My Name 32. Offspring - Kristy, Are You Doing OK? 33. Nickelback - If Today Was Your Last Day 34. Kanye West featuring Mr. Hudson - Paranoid 35. White Tie Affair - Candle (Sick and Tired) 36. Plain White T's - 1, 2, 3, 4 37. Katy Perry - Waking up in Vegas 38. Asher Roth - I Love College 39. Kristinia DeBarge - Goodbye 40. Keri Hilson feat. Lil Wayne - Turnin Me On Certain tracks that are deemed to have had their chance in the chart are relegated to the recurrent chart (basically if they take more than 20 weeks from debut to break the top 20 or are in their 52nd or later consecutive week on the chart, outside the top 10, and showing declining airplay)... all 20 that R&R lists had greater airplay than #40.
ender4 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 Does this include downloads now? I'd rather assumed that the "singles" chart died a natural death some years ago. yes, of course the singles charts includes downloads.
Stevo985 Posted May 1, 2009 VT Supporter Posted May 1, 2009 Apologies for top posting but when inlining... The UK Top 40 Music Charts - what do you think? and yes, we are talking about the whole of the top 40, not the top 10. so last weeks chart included a variety such as: Calvin Harris - who? Kings of Leon - not interested Miley Cyrus - good God no Beyonce - meh Lily Allen - 1 for 5... barely above the Mendoza line Prodigy - meh Just Jack - who? Flo Rida - an entertaining guest on the Stern show, but musically cack Lady Gaga - good God no Pink - 2 for 10, to get us back above the line Britney - good God no James Morrison - who? Green Day - maybe (I'll score that as a walk) Franz Ferdinand - maybe Girls Aloud - good God no Eminem - meh Akon - not interested Taylor Swift - meh Enemy - who? Voted mostly bad... 2 for 17 is well below the Mendoza line... I find it odd that the only 2 you think are decent out of that are lily Allen and pink!!
ender4 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 I honestly cant remember the last time I cared about the charts. Maybe during the Britpop era. The charts are less relevant these days than they ever were. They arent peoples window into music any more. Bands dont need to be on top of the pops to get their name out there these days. i think you're confused as to the role of the charts. The charts tells you what everyone is listening to, not telling you what to listen to. Its retrospective, you find whatever music you like & listen to it, the chart neatly tells you what you (in the collective sense) had found to listen to.
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