VillaJ100 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Obviously the answer is to move three stands of VP brick by brick ala Avoncroft or the Black Country Museum to the NEC, just leave the North Stand where it is 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 19 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: I think you can absolutely build a new Villa Park and work hard to keep some of the aesthetic. The brickwork, the mosaics, the statues could all be worked in to a new and modern stadium and i'd expect them to be. Like with everything about how we brand ourselves, we can't ignore our history but we also can't be limited by it. A modern stadium with modern facilities that pays a very strong homage to Villa Park would be ideal for me. I'm exactly the same but without wanting to be too boring here you absolutely can do it but they wont, modern architecture would be more based around lightweight construction, brickwork on that scale is no longer in fashion, both the cost and the time would dramatically increase using bricks, you would need bigger foundations as the building would weigh more while bricks are substantially slower to install and would be a "messy" trade compared to say steel and cladding, you would need more scaffolding too etc etc at best they'd use brick slip cladding, which again isn't very popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: I'm exactly the same but without wanting to be too boring here you absolutely can do it but they wont, modern architecture would be more based around lightweight construction, brickwork on that scale is no longer in fashion, both the cost and the time would dramatically increase using bricks, you would need bigger foundations as the building would weigh more while bricks are substantially slower to install and would be a "messy" trade compared to say steel and cladding, you would need more scaffolding too etc etc at best they'd use brick slip cladding, which again isn't very popular That's an excellent point I hadn't really considered. Everton have bricks on their new stadium which I assume are the brick slip cladding variety. I guess it just depends on how they work it in to the design. I don't think we'll get something akin to a hypermodern NFL stadium, I think they'll want to give nods to Villa Park where they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Just wanted to comment on how terrible the atmosphere was/is In " London Stadium " yesterday. If we do make anything new,.please make sure it's not like that 56 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah it sounded absolutely awful on the TV. If you can quite clearly hear the players communicating with each other then you know it's bad. It was like lockdown football Yes, The London Stadium is awful and in more ways than one. But you have to remember, it was purposely built as an athletics stadium for the olympics. It has been adapted for football and as such it suffers because of it. Purpose built stadiums for football are way better than the West Ham ground. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, imavillan said: Yes, The London Stadium is awful and in more ways than one. But you have to remember, it was purposely built as an athletics stadium for the olympics. It has been adapted for football and as such it suffers because of it. Purpose built stadiums for football are way better than the West Ham ground. I never thought that there was much atmosphere at Upton Park either. Always felt like the away end was a lot noisier and the majority of the home noise was just Representatives for North East Somerset near the away end asking you to meet them in the car park outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 18 Moderator Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: Did I really start this thread nearly a decade ago?! No. Old posts (wrongly) posted in the VP upgrade thread have been moved across to this thread, which was started just the other day, (thankfully) by @thabucks. But the thread shows posts in the order they were posted (wherever). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: if we built a new stadium there would be one key element for me - we have to use facing bricks, lucas oil stadium should be the template, i would want soemthing that even if we lost the history we still have the tradition and the uniqueness unfortunately due to costs and speed its not going to happen, we'd end up with another clad / curtain walled bowl and agree it would need to be out of town with its own transport links, next to the airport / new HS2 station would make the most sense as you would then have scope for a hotel or restaurants or shops etc and make it more viable 365 days a year, even partner with whoever the events organiser is at the Genting arena so we're not directly competing with each other Lucas oil also balances internally the 4 separate stands aesthetic. On HS2 where does it terminate north of Birmingham ? … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VillaJ100 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, thabucks said: Lucas oil also balances internally the 4 separate stands aesthetic. On HS2 where does it terminate north of Birmingham ? … Technically Handsacre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Honestly not a fan of the Lucas oil stadium To me it just looks "fake" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, sne said: Honestly not a fan of the Lucas oil stadium To me it just looks "fake" It fits the local vernacular though which I think anyone who references it means a new Villa park should do and celebrates the rich industrial history of Birmingham without being Disney - esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, thabucks said: It fits the local vernacular though which I think anyone who references it means a new Villa park should do and celebrates the rich industrial history of Birmingham without being Disney - esque Yeah, but it still looks fake to me. Like a supermarket that tries to look old but isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alreadyexists Posted March 18 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 18 I want a round stadium, not a shield stadium, and I want the lion to be the right way round on the stadium. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) herzog & de meuron have designed some amazing brick buildings including the now cancelled Chelsea stadium … they have past form in recycling their designs for other clients as the Bordeaux stadium design was initially designed for Portsmouth… A take on their stadium for Chelsea would be befitting imo. Edited March 18 by thabucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, thabucks said: I think the Lucas oil stadium is what we should aspire to (eventually), remove the big window and have the jolted end and the steps there. Anyone good on photoshop to do that, would look sweet as Edited March 18 by burchy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, thabucks said: Lucas oil also balances internally the 4 separate stands aesthetic. On HS2 where does it terminate north of Birmingham ? … They've got a station called brimingham interchange round the back of the airport / NEC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 The perfect size stadium for us with our waiting list plus soon to be plastic fans when we are in the Champions League. https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/21/06/2022/1-million-capacity-stadium-design-goes-viral Quote 1 million capacity stadium design 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: The perfect size stadium for us with our waiting list plus soon to be plastic fans when we are in the Champions League. https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/21/06/2022/1-million-capacity-stadium-design-goes-viral Ass the champions league stadium star roof and we’ve hit ourselves a winner ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, thabucks said: Ass the champions league stadium star roof and we’ve hit ourselves a winner ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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