Marka Ragnos Posted July 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) We have new and returning-from-injury players, and we need to decide how to use our resources best on the Villa defence. There are some strong personalities, there are leadership issues, there are player-development issues, etc.etc. It's confusing. Glass half-full version is we have amazing and interesting and versatile choices of defenders. Glass half-empty version is ... what a mess. We have a mish-mash of players with overlapping skills and yet big weak spots remain, too -- and we may need to recruit (eg, an RB). But time is running out. You've got to figure this all out for us and make it coherent. How do you line up only our back line now? Edited July 31, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2023 Not guilty by reason of insanity. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 31, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2023 Here's mine. It's for two main systems we'd use as needed: Main system: Carlos-Mings-Torres with high line Secondary system: Cash-Konsa-Mings-Moreno with more traditional defensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Defense?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Martinez Cash. Chambers. Dendoncker. Kamara. Konsa. Carlos. Mings. Pau. Digne. Moreno Hause on the bench to come on and sure things up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Anyway; Emi; Cash, Konsa, Mings, Moreno (when fit) Torres and Carlos have to earn the shirt. There will be plenty of games for everyone though, including Digne Edited July 31, 2023 by Xela 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Take the fifth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 We start with Emi1, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne and we ease in Pau and Carlos and when back fit Moreno. I think we won't see the best of Torres til second half of the season, if not next season. Think we'll look to toughen him up over the next 3-6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xela said: Anyway; Emi; Cash, Konsa, Mings, Moreno (when fit) Torres and Carlos have to earn the shirt. There will be plenty of games for everyone though, including Digne Agree with this 100% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) If fit and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. the meanest defender in the league for the last 14/15 games, they have the perfect high line sorted Cash Ezri Mings Moreno Edited July 31, 2023 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, villan95 said: Martinez Cash. Chambers. Dendoncker. Kamara. Konsa. Carlos. Mings. Pau. Digne. Moreno Hause on the bench to come on and sure things up you know what they say, if you dont concede.....you cant lose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I too believe the 2 centre backs against Newcastle, the first game, should be Mings and Konsa. Its about organisation and synchronisation and the understanding, that they have both built up with each other. Individually I rate Torres and Carlos, highly, buy they have to have time, to integrate.....Carlos is like a new signing in effect and Torres needs to get in to the synchronisation of the team. It will require amongst many things organisation and understanding against Newky.....and the players who served us well last season must be in the £ seats. If we are to get anything, we must play as a team....and that means knowing what each other is doing.....The new boys, will take time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, Xela said: Anyway; Emi; Cash, Konsa, Mings, Moreno (when fit) Torres and Carlos have to earn the shirt. There will be plenty of games for everyone though, including Digne spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, villan95 said: Martinez Cash. Chambers. Dendoncker. Kamara. Konsa. Carlos. Mings. Pau. Digne. Moreno Hause on the bench to come on and sure things up Big eck lives! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: you know what they say, if you dont concede.....you cant lose! and if you don't score, you can't win.....they are both valid values. The great teams, have the ability to know when to do what and apply aggression/ intensity to each mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: If fit and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. the meanest defender in the league for the last 14/15 games, they have the perfect high line sorted Cash Ezri Mings Moreno It is broke until around October isn't it Cash - konsa - torres - mings Cash will push forward giving us a back 3, torres didn't look comfortable there yesterday, harsh on konsa but if mings doesn't play there and they want him in the middle then it'll be Carlos We've had worse problems that's for sure, especially if we get a high potential young RB in too, we've got plenty of options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, TRO said: I too believe the 2 centre backs against Newcastle, the first game, should be Mings and Konsa. Its about organisation and synchronisation and the understanding, that they have both built up with each other. Individually I rate Torres and Carlos, highly, buy they have to have time, to integrate.....Carlos is like a new signing in effect and Torres needs to get in to the synchronisation of the team. It will require amongst many things organisation and understanding against Newky.....and the players who served us well last season must be in the £ seats. If we are to get anything, we must play as a team....and that means knowing what each other is doing.....The new boys, will take time. Yes, think it's wise to give Pau and Carlos time to adjust as neither of them have played many minutes under Unai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Emery might love Torres but he loves winning more. Newcastle needs our most reliable defence . Mings and Konsa are 3 and a half years into their partnership now with little competition. Theres been good and bad times with them but someone is going to have to be really really good to displace one or both from our starting 11. They compliment each other perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: It is broke until around October isn't it Cash - konsa - torres - mings Cash will push forward giving us a back 3, torres didn't look comfortable there yesterday, harsh on konsa but if mings doesn't play there and they want him in the middle then it'll be Carlos We've had worse problems that's for sure, especially if we get a high potential young RB in too, we've got plenty of options Konsa is the most gifted attacking midfielder in the league, wasted at CB.....he has the running grace of an andalusion thoroubred and the finishing prowess of Robert Lewandowski.....Thomas Franks said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I wonder if Pau could actually start at LB first match instead of Digne to combat Newcastle's height and set piece threat. I certainly wouldn't break up the Mings, Konsa partnership though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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