JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: This is exactly what i was thinking. lol As much as it doesn't feel great being the last option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Recent news, on Aaron and Cam, just brings more belief that there are more signings on the way, we are not done. I’m all for whatever Unai wants to do - we want to be as strong as possible and launch an attack on all fronts! All for it! A stronger, more dangerous, more effective/clinical team is going to be a sight to behold… finally, Unai gets to build this squad in his own image… the potter is moulding the clay… WATCH OUT! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted August 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jas10 said: the potter is moulding the clay… WATCH OUT! He was crap at Chelsea though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Surely another forward is coming if Archer goes. Duran isn't ready and he has had no pre season. Unless Diaby is the Watkins backup and Buendia/Coutinho take the Diaby place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, villan-scott said: He was crap at Chelsea though. THE potter, the real “potter”… The real deal when it comes to elite management and coaching… Not Mr. Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Surely another forward is coming if Archer goes. Duran isn't ready and he has had no pre season. Unless Diaby is the Watkins backup and Buendia/Coutinho take the Diaby place? If that happens, I would be sure of it… I keep thinking of Unai’s comments during our US tour… Working on outgoings, watching the market and ready to act toward the end of August for “good opportunities” or “big deals”… No way we are done… Monchi implied the same too… but we won’t go “crazy”… but want to equip Unai as well as possible to challenge on all fronts… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 forgive me if this has been done a few times already but I was bored and made a quick spreadsheet to wrap my head around squad restrictions this season in the Prem and how our current squad fits into them. My main takeaways were the fact we currently have an exact 25 man squad, with main team and under 21s combined. In that 25 are a few I'd expect us to move on instead of register, the main two being Davis and Hause. I then think you could put question marks against all of Olsen, Chambers, Coutinho, Traore, Archer and Bailey. All of them leaving though would obviously cause a lot of upheaval so I'm half expecting us now to just sit tight with a few in the squad and give them another year under Emery to see how they fair / whether they feature. I definitely think a defender needs to go so I imagine it'll be Hause. I think an attacking player needs go and I'm not sure on this one, but would prefer Coutinho or Traore over anyone else. Then Davis to go too would be my assumption from the strikers. My other takeaway was how impressed I was by the volume of players we don't need to register in the squad in order to play, that could actually pick up a lot of minutes. Duran, Philogene, Iroegbunam, Revan, Feeney, Young, Kellyman, Marschall, Chrisene, Bogarde to name ones I think could get game time. A lot of these could do with loans out but in the case of Duran and Philogene in particular, I'd feel comfortable with a 23 man squad knowing these guys are ready to step up, and we've got space in Jan if they don't step up and we hit an injury crisis. Not included Aaron Ramsey for obvious reasons but if he stayed he'd be right up there for me. The issue being we are already bloated in his position and even then Duran and Philogene would be ahead of him in the youth ranks for game time. Current 25 man squad: 2 GK: Olsen, Martínez 9 DF: Hause, Chambers, Digne, Moreno, Carlos, Mings, Cash, Konsa, Torres 4 DM: Dendoncker, Tielemans, Kamara, Luiz 7 AM: Coutinho, Traoré, McGinn, Buendía, Bailey, Ramsey, Diaby 3 ST: Davis, Archer, Watkin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 regarding the Archer speculation, too many murmurs for him to be sticking around I think, must be something in it. I would say after looking at squad registration, the fact his birthday is in december has massively hampered him. If he was born Jan 2022 instead he wouldn't be taking a spot in the squad and that might have been enough for Emery to give him a season to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Recent news, on Aaron and Cam, just brings more belief that there are more signings on the way, we are not done. I’m all for whatever Unai wants to do - we want to be as strong as possible and launch an attack on all fronts! All for it! He has to get the numbers down too, and if he is planning on Archer going then we will surely be in for another striker once we've got a few more off the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Surely another forward is coming if Archer goes. Duran isn't ready and he has had no pre season. Unless Diaby is the Watkins backup and Buendia/Coutinho take the Diaby place? Keinan to replace Archer .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, MWARLEY2 said: Keinan to replace Archer .... The deal will be £15m for Archer, or £12m for Archer and Davis. Edited August 9, 2023 by jacketspuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, skarroki said: All Current 25 man squad: 2 GK: Olsen, Martínez 9 DF: Hause, Chambers, Digne, Moreno, Carlos, Mings, Cash, Konsa, Torres 4 DM: Dendoncker, Tielemans, Kamara, Luiz 7 AM: Coutinho, Traoré, McGinn, Buendía, Bailey, Ramsey, Diaby 3 ST: Davis, Archer, Watkins I think we might see these 4 moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, skarroki said: regarding the Archer speculation, too many murmurs for him to be sticking around I think, must be something in it. I would say after looking at squad registration, the fact his birthday is in december has massively hampered him. If he was born Jan 2022 instead he wouldn't be taking a spot in the squad and that might have been enough for Emery to give him a season to impress. But if we replace him with someone that wasn't at the club for 3 years before 21, then we lose a man from our ECL squad. Edited August 9, 2023 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, skarroki said: Current 25 man squad: 2 GK: Olsen, Martínez 9 DF: Hause, Chambers, Digne, Moreno, Carlos, Mings, Cash, Konsa, Torres 4 DM: Dendoncker, Tielemans, Kamara, Luiz 7 AM: Coutinho, Traoré, McGinn, Buendía, Bailey, Ramsey, Diaby 3 ST: Davis, Archer, Watkin And the same squad with ECL Uefa restrictions becomes a 24 man squad. I assume we lose Hause from it to comply... 2 GK: Olsen, Martínez 8 DF: Chambers, Digne, Moreno, Carlos, Mings, Cash, Konsa, Torres 4 DM: Dendoncker, Tielemans, Kamara, Luiz 7 AM: Coutinho, Traoré, McGinn, Buendía, Bailey, Ramsey, Diaby 3 ST: Davis, Archer, Watkin Those in bold meeting homegrown criteria. If we lose Archer and Davis, we cant add anyone to that ECL squad that wasn't with us for 3 years before 21, unless we lose someone else over 21. I'd guess Traoré would be the obvious dropout to accommodate a new striker if we sell Davis or Archer, but then your squad becomes 23 players. Edited August 9, 2023 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I’d rather drop a player from the squad and get in a better striker than keep Archer to keep it a 25 man squad personally… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I think we might see these 4 moving on. You can only sell if there are buyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, thabucks said: I’d rather drop a player from the squad and get in a better striker than keep Archer to keep it a 25 man squad personally… If that's the choice I agree. But I'm not sure selling Archer is the key to us having the FFP room to sign a new striker though. Davis would be a better option to drop. Then keep Archer, and buy a new striker :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: You can only sell if there are buyers! I think that much is obvious. If there are buyers, those will be the 4 I think Emery will move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Understandable that people are in two minds about selling academy prospects. But for every Jacob Ramsey there’s three Hepburn-Murphys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: Understandable that people are in two minds about selling academy prospects. But for every Jacob Ramsey there’s three Hepburn-Murphys Its so true. Our Youth Cup winners who looked incredible as a team Brad Young , Raikhy , Lindley all released Barry League 2 loan Swinkels barely heard of anymore Bogarde Revan and Chrisene likely to go on loan to championship or below level. Aaron and Carney sold . Marschall as 3rd keeper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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