pacbuddies Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, PerryBarrPet said: Because it takes time to find the optimum replacement - can’t afford any more mistakes. Does anyone really believe we can sack Gerrard now and have his replacement in in short order? Certainly we should start looking now but the premature sacking of Gerrard could leave a management void for a substantial time and while Gerrard is poor a void is worse. Critchley could do a caretaker role. He couldn't do any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, pacbuddies said: Critchley could do a caretaker role. He couldn't do any worse! No for me he’s part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has a huge ego and wants to be the guy that Sky or Talksport interviews when a Premier League voice is needed I’m not sure we as the public know enough about the person to make that assessment… just my personal view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Parker is now available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Given that Lage was a serious candidate in 2018 and 2020 suggests we will pool various names and not just go British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Bournemouth stealing a march on us , wonder if they are going for Poch or Rodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, PerryBarrPet said: No for me he’s part of the problem. How can he be though? He didn't play this system at Blackpool and wasn't there during pre-season. Many of our issues predate him by 6 months, he may not be having the impact we want but the issues aren't his fault. My belief (unfounded conspiracy) is that his absence over Australia ruined the squads belief in Gerrard - there was a gulf where Beale existed running these 'smart' training sessions that likes of Emi raved about last year. Gerrard was taking over as Critchley was absent and the players realised he isn't up to it, had a couple of run-ins (not big argumentative blowouts like the media would be interested in, but just clash of personalities) with likes of Tyrone and we have the situation we have now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: Bournemouth stealing a march on us , wonder if they are going for Poch or Rodgers I think they’re more in big fat Sam territory tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I think glamour is the wrong word But I do think he went with Gerrard as a remit of young and English and its failed I think it was a case of 'brand awareness', which makes sense from a CEO point of view. Appointing Gerrard was a business decision IMO. I don't give much credence to baseless speculation of famboyism and Purslow's ego. Looking at what we actually know and trying to make sense of it, using the approach that each of us tries to do our jobs to the best of our abilities, the think that makes most sense is weighing Gerrards lack of experience against a potential increase in brand awareness and all the possibilities that comes with that. I think the club decided to try and expand the Villa fanbase, revenue possibilities etc by tapping into Gerrards status as a footballing superstar, and simply thought that outweighed the risks with him not being up to it due to lack of managerial experience and know-how. They might even have pitched it to SG that way, him reassuring them he has 'excellent staff to help'. And from the looks of it, the club is heading straight towards failure on all points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I don’t get this view that Purslow wants a glamour signing or a name from Sky or TalkSport. It’s just so poorly thought through an argument. At Liverpool he sacked Rafa and employed Woy, this is exactly the opposite of what is argued here. He did this as he was selling the club and needed a safe pair of hands that wouldn’t spend any money. He came to Villa and sacked Bruce and employed Deano, again making the glamour / sky / TalkSport argument look very weak. He then sacked Deano and brought in Gerrard, the same people claiming this is a variety signing or sky/TalkSport name claim this is because Gerrard is his mate and accuse him of nepotism. Now when the wind is blowing a particular direction that has changed to Purslow wanting a name talking about on sky or a podcast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I don’t get this view that Purslow wants a glamour signing or a name from Sky or TalkSport. It’s just so poorly thought through an argument. At Liverpool he sacked Rafa and employed Woy, this is exactly the opposite of what is argued here. He did this as he was selling the club and needed a safe pair of hands that wouldn’t spend any money. He came to Villa and sacked Bruce and employed Deano, again making the glamour / sky / TalkSport argument look very weak. He then sacked Deano and brought in Gerrard, the same people claiming this is a variety signing or sky/TalkSport name claim this is because Gerrard is his mate and accuse him of nepotism. Now when the wind is blowing a particular direction that has changed to Purslow wanting a name talking about on sky or a podcast The owners wanted Henry and I'm of the understanding it was Purslow that pushed for Smith and got his way ? Dunno if the Terry appointment was his ides , or Smiths , or the boards though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, tonyh29 said: The owners wanted Henry and I'm of the understanding it was Purslow that pushed for Smith and got his way ? Dunno if the Terry appointment was his ides , or Smiths , or the boards though Exactly, hardly a vanity signing. I think JT was an opportunistic appointment. We had him as a player so he knew the club, he commanded respect in the dressing room (so much so the players locked up their WAGs) and he was a leader on the pitch. There is a lot that made sense about bringing JT into Smith's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: I don't think that much points towards Dyche being flexible, he's had many years to try different things. My guess is Dyche-ball is what he knows. The club could obviously take a chance on him being good at other ways of playing, but that would be a big gamble. As much as I don't want Dyche I think he'd get a tune of this group of players. I watched a video of him being interviewed during lockdown, and he said that he set his teams up based on the players at his disposal. He actually came across not to dissimilar to Smith in saying his main ethos was that the team comes first, that he wants a mentality of togetherness, and that you cut your cloth accordingly. We certainly wouldn't so powder puff weak bunch of scaredy cats on the pitch, that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: As much as I don't want Dyche I think he'd get a tune of this group of players. I watched a video of him being interviewed during lockdown, and he said that he set his teams up based on the players at his disposal. He actually came across not to dissimilar to Smith in saying his main ethos was that the team comes first, that he wants a mentality of togetherness, and that you cut your cloth accordingly. We certainly wouldn't so powder puff weak bunch of scaredy cats on the pitch, that's for sure. Good shout, I'd take Dyche right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, stewiek2 said: As much as I don't want Dyche I think he'd get a tune of this group of players. I watched a video of him being interviewed during lockdown, and he said that he set his teams up based on the players at his disposal. He actually came across not to dissimilar to Smith in saying his main ethos was that the team comes first, that he wants a mentality of togetherness, and that you cut your cloth accordingly. We certainly wouldn't so powder puff weak bunch of scaredy cats on the pitch, that's for sure. I would be happy with someone like Dyche as an assistant coach or defensive coach but not the man to bring us forward. Although, as u say, he set up the team to suit the players he had, I suspect that by the end of his tenure at Burnley, every single player was bought by him and it looked like they were bought for the Burnley system. Maybe this is what he meant by cutting his cloth but I would worry about his style. I have only seen Burnley twice since Kompany took over but they are like chalk and cheese to last year. A lot of the same squad and having lost their most creative players yet they are playing nice attacking football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2022 People are talking about Gerrard not being able to take us forward, DS not being able to take us forward, but proposing Sean Dyche? I think you are all mental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, VillaParkAvenue said: After the World Cup many managers could become available. Martinez, Hjulmand, Southgate.... Which is why we need to get an available manager in now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) From the account that broke the Sarr OFF news... Pinch of salt etc etc but let us have this moment of positivity Edited August 30, 2022 by PeterSw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Arsenal 9-0 and he should be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 "I’ll never forget the game either last year or two years ago at Turf in the middle of the **** storm and Dyche still had Lowton and Taylor trying to send crosses into the box in gale force winds. I think the storm was so bad the rest of the Prem games were called off for the day. He was telling them to send **** crosses in gale force winds. That is some real sicko type shit. Like a perversion towards only playing crosses during games." https://www.reddit.com/r/Burnley/comments/u57f3e/why_we_ditched_dyche_an_amateur_report_for_all/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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