Summer Transfer Window 2022

[Rustibrooks]

Gabriel Jesus has been made available supposedly (not surprising because Haaland is going there) for around €30 mill? Would you consider him here?

[gaz90]

With the talk of Suarez possibly signing and joining back up with his former teammate, I thought I'd take a look at who else is still playing that would have been on Liverpool's books while Gerrard was there. Not saying that I'd take all of these at Villa, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two joined in the summer.

 

Goalkeepers
Peter Gulacsi (31) - RB Leipzig

Defenders
Alberto Moreno (29) - Villareal
Sebastian Coates (31) - Sporting CP
Conor Coady (29) - Wolves

Midfielders
Jordan Henderson (31) - Liverpool
Luis Alberto (29) - Lazio
Lucas Leiva (35) - Lazio
Victor Moses (31) - Spartak Moscow
Jonjo Shelvey (30) - Newcastle
Ryan Babel (35) - Galatasaray

Attackers
Raheem Sterling (27) - Man. City
Suso (28) - Sevilla
Iago Aspas (34) - Celta Vigo

 

Some of the ages/clubs might be wrong, but there's a lot of experience in that list. We probably couldn't attract all of them, but Gerrard would've had a big impact on many Liverpool players during his time there, so I'm sure he'll have a fair bit of pull.

I wouldn't mind a couple of them along with a few younger players, if the deals were right financially, but there's always a risk that we repeat the mistakes of summer 2015, as others have mentioned.

Does anyone think that we should/might try to bring any of these in?

[Zatman]

1 minute ago, gaz90 said:

With the talk of Suarez possibly signing and joining back up with his former teammate, I thought I'd take a look at who else is still playing that would have been on Liverpool's books while Gerrard was there. Not saying that I'd take all of these at Villa, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two joined in the summer.

 

Goalkeepers
Peter Gulacsi (31) - RB Leipzig

Defenders
Alberto Moreno (29) - Villareal
Sebastian Coates (31) - Sporting CP
Conor Coady (29) - Wolves

Midfielders
Jordan Henderson (31) - Liverpool
Luis Alberto (29) - Lazio
Lucas Leiva (35) - Lazio
Victor Moses (31) - Spartak Moscow
Jonjo Shelvey (30) - Newcastle
Ryan Babel (35) - Galatasaray

Attackers
Raheem Sterling (27) - Man. City
Suso (28) - Sevilla
Iago Aspas (34) - Celta Vigo

 

Some of the ages/clubs might be wrong, but there's a lot of experience in that list. We probably couldn't attract all of them, but Gerrard would've had a big impact on many Liverpool players during his time there, so I'm sure he'll have a fair bit of pull.

I wouldn't mind a couple of them along with a few younger players, if the deals were right financially, but there's always a risk that we repeat the mistakes of summer 2015, as others have mentioned.

Does anyone think that we should/might try to bring any of these in?

The only ones still capable of doing anything like Luis Alberto or Sterling are out of our reach 

The rest be a huge NO

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

11 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said:

Gabriel Jesus has been made available supposedly (not surprising because Haaland is going there) for around €30 mill? Would you consider him here?

Jesus is a better all round footballer than Ollie, but finishing and decision making just as suspect at times imo

[IrishVilla10]

6 minutes ago, gaz90 said:

With the talk of Suarez possibly signing and joining back up with his former teammate, I thought I'd take a look at who else is still playing that would have been on Liverpool's books while Gerrard was there. Not saying that I'd take all of these at Villa, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two joined in the summer.

 

Goalkeepers
Peter Gulacsi (31) - RB Leipzig

Defenders
Alberto Moreno (29) - Villareal
Sebastian Coates (31) - Sporting CP
Conor Coady (29) - Wolves

Midfielders
Jordan Henderson (31) - Liverpool
Luis Alberto (29) - Lazio
Lucas Leiva (35) - Lazio
Victor Moses (31) - Spartak Moscow
Jonjo Shelvey (30) - Newcastle
Ryan Babel (35) - Galatasaray

Attackers
Raheem Sterling (27) - Man. City
Suso (28) - Sevilla
Iago Aspas (34) - Celta Vigo

 

Some of the ages/clubs might be wrong, but there's a lot of experience in that list. We probably couldn't attract all of them, but Gerrard would've had a big impact on many Liverpool players during his time there, so I'm sure he'll have a fair bit of pull.

I wouldn't mind a couple of them along with a few younger players, if the deals were right financially, but there's always a risk that we repeat the mistakes of summer 2015, as others have mentioned.

Does anyone think that we should/might try to bring any of these in?

I don’t buy the old teammates thing. And will be genuinely surprised if he’s after Suarez in the summer. I’d take sterling from that list but that’s never happening, the rest no 

[useless]

Sherwood didn't have a better start than Gerrard, we took less points (20) in Sherwood's whole time time with us, than we've taken with Gerrard this season. Sherwood was sacked after we lost eight out of nine games and drew the other one. Gerrard's start is more comparable to Smith's, Gerrard has taken 26 points from his first twenty games, Smith took 29, both were brought in at similar times of the season as well.

[turvontour]

3 hours ago, Reivax_Villa said:

Who else is dreading the transfer window this summer?

 

I'm really bored of it in all honesty.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

5 minutes ago, useless said:

Sherwood didn't have a better start than Gerrard, we took less points (20) in Sherwood's whole time time with us, than we've taken with Gerrard this season. Sherwood was sacked after we lost eight out of nine games and drew the other one. Gerrard's start is more comparable to Smith's, Gerrard has taken 26 points from his first twenty games, Smith took 29, both were brought in at similar times of the season as well.

I genuinely couldn't even be arsed answering with facts.

At this point, it's obvious some people are desperate for him to fail, and will go to any length to try and prove why he is akin to Villas footballing antichrist and is bringing about the club's apocalypse right beneath our noses, which some of us are just too blind to see yet.

[Rustibrooks]

10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Jesus is a better all round footballer than Ollie, but finishing and decision making just as suspect at times imo

I'd be interested in him being one of our inside forwards, but he doesn't really score a lot. I like his versatility though and it gives us a bit of flexibility up top, I'd entertain this if we shift a few of our forward players.

[FLVillan]

3 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said:

I'd be interested in him being one of our inside forwards, but he doesn't really score a lot. I like his versatility though and it gives us a bit of flexibility up top, I'd entertain this if we shift a few of our forward players.

I actually have always liked the lad (Jesus) and think that Pep's system/style just doesn't suit him.  I think if he were in a team where he was a central striker he would score more.  Not necessarily at an Aguero level, but he strikes me as a similar type.  

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

6 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said:

I'd be interested in him being one of our inside forwards, but he doesn't really score a lot. I like his versatility though and it gives us a bit of flexibility up top, I'd entertain this if we shift a few of our forward players.

Would 100 percent improve the squad. Obviously good with the football and will have been well drilled at keeping possession as well 

I wouldn't mind sacrificing say, Ings for him? ( Or would that be a bad move )

Having said that, weren't Man City actually rumoured to be considering Ings towards end of last summer window due to failing for Kane etc?

IMO the likes of Haaland should have always been their priority anyway.

Edited April 20, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[CVByrne]

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Only thing I'm potentially " dreading " about the transfer window is Newcastle.

Aside from that, I'm actually quite excited about finally upgrading and changing the dynamic of our midfield, that's the most important thing for me.

I'd be ok with blowing the chunk of our budget on DCM/CM and CB and nothing else.

Like or dislike him, fact is SG is one of the best Midfielders to ever do it. I trust his judgement in that area of the pitch.

West Ham winning Europa and getting CL is an absolute nightmare too. Competing with them when they're in the Conference League vs Champions League (and the finances that come with it). Plus Newcastle and us ending bottom half. 

That's nightmare scenario

[Zatman]

10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

I genuinely couldn't even be arsed answering with facts.

At this point, it's obvious some people are desperate for him to fail, and will go to any length to try and prove why he is akin to Villas footballing antichrist and is bringing about the club's apocalypse right beneath our noses, which some of us are just too blind to see yet.

Nobody is desperate for him to fail. Why would we want our team to lese to say we told you so. Seems childish and he has been praised for the rare good performances

Big difference here is I am expecting him to fail which is the disgrace 

[Rustibrooks]

It shouldn't affect us as much, however Man Utd are also doing a huge rebuild this summer reportedly up to 10 players they are replacing. They could be in for a few of our targets as well.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

12 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Nobody is desperate for him to fail. Why would we want our team to lese to say we told you so. Seems childish and he has been praised for the rare good performances

Big difference here is I am expecting him to fail which is the disgrace 

You and all the others who warned us will be safe. We will be left here to endure the torment. lol

Edited April 20, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 minute ago, Rustibrooks said:

It shouldn't affect us as much, however Man Utd are also doing a huge rebuild this summer reportedly up to 10 players they are replacing. They could be in for a few of our targets as well.

So i'm guessing you don't see Ten Haag wanting McGinn for 75 mill by any chance?

[Zatman]

I could see us going for Gerard Deulofeu, he has been moved to a centre forward position and is still only 28 with that crucial premier league experience

[sparrow1988]

2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

I honestly don't know what to expect this transfer window. I want to be enthusiastic, but then I remember our activity from last Summer and it fills me with dread. Not least because it showed a lack of preparation and footballing expertise within the club. I had very little hope at the start of the season as some posters on here can attest to. Here's why. 

Top Line: The club didn't know/expect Grealish was leaving. And that fuc**d everything. 

We went into the window in a strong position. Genuine challengers to the top 8, one of the best players in the world, and off the back of a really good points haul - albeit we finished 11th. 
The window started excellently. We bought Buendia who I know still divides opinion on here, but it was an excellent signing given we beat Arsenal to his signature. We had someone to complement Grealish on the right side and he slotted almost immediately into our 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 formation. At this point, I was expecting another solid window.
The club then gets word Grealish is leaving, something they didn't expect given the exposure they gave him during the kit launch, and they panic. We then go and sign Bailey - a player who prefers to play on the right hand side and in exactly the same position as Buendia plays? Why? We already have Buendia there and Traore, who, I don't rate but understand he has a place in the squad and is probably a reasonable back up. Bailey is an exciting talent but he doesn't fit. 
We then go and sign Ings. Why? This goes against everything the club wants to do in terms of sell on value, reasonable wages, long contracts etc. We can argue on here all day about having two good strikers at the club, but we're an 11th place team with some glaring deficiencies in other areas of the side that need urgent attention. Why go and sign another striker to compete with your record signing off the back of a very strong season playing as a lone striker? It's a panic move and it's a bad decision. 

After Grealish leaves, we then hear the famous Purslow interview about signing Ings, Bailey and Buendia to statistically replace Grealish' output. We don't sign any more players and the window shuts. We're left with two right sided forwards and a striker who doesn't suit our system. We haven't actually bought a left sided player to replace Grealish and we haven't bought any midfielders - an area that obviously needed improving. The season starts and everything mentioned above, becomes a problem for Smith. We start playing different formations to accommodate Ings and Watkins who play awfully together. We're playing Buendia as a 10 and everything we'd built the season before, had crumbled to try and accommodate and justify a downright awful transfer window. Oh, and teams are still walking through our central midfield - Imagine the shock!

What we should have done when Grealish left is spend the money on a left sided forward to replace him. Play Buendia on the right where he's excelled for Norwich and sign two new central midfielders to sure us up in the middle of the park. It was painfully obvious to see at the time and doesn't fall into the category of 'hindsight is a wonderful thing'. It was fu**ng obvious at the time. The squad was left with a massive imbalance. Two 'top' strikers, three/four right sided forwards, no left sided forward and no defensively capable midfielders. 

That's why I'm nervous about this Summer window. We sign players that we don't need, that don't fit a system and we continue to neglect areas of the side that desperately need improvement. 
Honestly, if we don't sign at least two defensively minded midfielders then you can forget any kind of success next season. 

Rant over. Sorry for the long post. Like I've said before, this Summer will at least be exciting even if it's reckless. 

 

Delphino after he hits "submit reply"

Edited April 20, 2022 by sparrow1988

[sparrow1988]

1 hour ago, Rustibrooks said:

Gabriel Jesus has been made available supposedly (not surprising because Haaland is going there) for around €30 mill? Would you consider him here?

Absolutely. Fantastic footballer and would set the tone from the top with his pressing. However if he is available then I suspect that he will end up at a European club. Somewhere like Barca in a financially suspect deal.

[DaveAV1]

26 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Nobody is desperate for him to fail. Why would we want our team to lese to say we told you so. Seems childish and he has been praised for the rare good performances

Big difference here is I am expecting him to fail which is the disgrace 

It’s a disgrace that you expect him to fail? So who exactly is responsible for your own expectations. Some people expect him to succeed others fail, most people expect him to be given adequate time and resources to do one or the other, or maybe something in between. 
 

To compare SG and our current situation regarding ownership and the set up they are building, with Sherwood under Randy Lerner and his mismanagement of the club is probably a little more disgraceful. 
 

I get it you don’t like him. Did I like him before he became our manager? No of course not. He was the opposition and very successful against us for a team none of us like, for much the same reason and probably a few more. However he’s here now and there is no real point in your constant diatribe against him.
 

None of us really know how things will pan out but please, change the record for 5 minutes. Under our current owners this is potentially the most exciting time to be a Villa fan in 40 years. If you’d just arrived from outer space, after half an hour in here you’d think you were on a SHA forum. Let’s all enjoy a summer of exciting signings and the potential good times they may bring. He said jumping back on topic.