WallisFrizz Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Do our academy teams seem to be getting beaten more often than not at the moment? I don’t follow that closely but every time I see a score we seem to be on the wrong end of a pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Do our academy teams seem to be getting beaten more often than not at the moment? I don’t follow that closely but every time I see a score we seem to be on the wrong end of a pasting. I don't follow it that much but I thought we weren't results focused in the leagues, we're using patch work quilt teams and playing with the ages meaning we often line up quite young compared to the opposition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 U18s had started to improve before today, beating Spurs and Norwich away and getting good draws against West Ham and Leicester and very unlucky to lose four minutes into injury time against Arsenal as well. That improvement coincided with a few changes, Katsukunya, and Duerden being promoted from the U16s, and Aaron O'Reilly also returning, which seemed to help the defence, and also Patterson moving into midfield, and Kadan Young becoming more of a regular starter. They've been unlucky this season with injuries, four or five of the best players at that level have missed most of the season, and up until recently had only one specialist centreback available. Also have to bear in mind that the best U18 players are fast tracked to the U23s, so it's always going to be hard for the U18s to do well in the league as they lose the best players to the U23s, but that doesn't matter as it's better for the indvidial players development to play up a level if they're good enough. U23s lose a lot of games, probably partly because the best players are either out on loan, or involved with the first team. As has been said before our academy is a lot more focused on individual development rather than results, last night against Stoke for example we used it as a game to give game time to players returning from injury and to give some U23 experience to some of the younger players, possibly a few of the others being released in the summer as well, so would have been a chance for them to impress scouts, which is beneficial for us as it's better for the academy if the players we release find new clubs and go on to have good careers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Tristan Goodridge is in talks with Newcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Back on players we might be releasing, as above Tristan Abldeen-Goodridge is currently on trial with Newcastle and played for them against Middlesbrough on Friday, so seems like he might be one of the players we're letting go in the summer. He hasn't actually done too bad this season, four goals and three assists in seventeen appearanes for the U23s and another goal and two assists in four appearances in the EFL Trophy against first team opposition, I think his general performances have improved as well. But we've got a lot of talented forwards of a similar age, and others coming through a little younger, so can see why he might be one we have to let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Both now working as coaches at our satelite academy in Gloucester, Zak Brown also playing for Alvechurch who our academy also has a connection with as their new training ground is also used by the FDC Academy who are one of our partners, which small heath fans have been moaning about as apparently it's near to their training ground... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) U15s lost 4-1 today in the Floodlit Cup Semi-Final v Palace, a shame, but they did well to get this far, and Palace have a very good academy at the moment, they won the Floodlit Cup themselves a couple of years back, and will probably win it again this year. U14s beat Reading 6-1 in a Quarter-Final at the weekend, which I'm pretty sure was the Albert Phelan Cup, so one of the younger age group teams still might be in with a chance of winning one of the major academy tournaments this season. Edited April 6, 2022 by useless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Very, very good article, we are in excellent hands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Playing Reading at 12 at Bodymoor Heath Zych, Ealing, Smith, Aaron O'Relly, Swinkels, Munroe, Alcock, Pavey, Kadan Young, Kellyman, Moore Subs: Lane, Rhoades, Pierre, Rowe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2022 Looks a strong line up that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2022 1-0 up - Kerr Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 They lost 2-1, Reading scored two quick goals on the hour mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Proctor with the England U16s for the Montaigu Tournament in France coming up this week Broggio also been called up by England U15s for a tournament in Italy later in the month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 10/04/2022 at 21:24, useless said: Proctor with the England U16s for the Montaigu Tournament in France coming up this week I haven't seen it so don't know if he had much to do, but he came on for the last fifteen minutes in England's 3 0 against Mexico yesterday, video should start at that moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Lost 2-0 v West Brom Wright, Rhoades, Aaron O'Relly, Katsukunya, Softley, Munroe, Alcock, Afoka, Burchall, Kellyman, Moore, Subs: Lewis, Duerden, Pierre, Mitchell Edited April 16, 2022 by useless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Anyone noticed since Gerrard come in we've being getting absolutely battered at u23 and u18 level. Are we playing the same tactics as the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, messi11 said: Anyone noticed since Gerrard come in we've being getting absolutely battered at u23 and u18 level. Are we playing the same tactics as the first team? we have been semi poor all season, probably largely in part due to the fact a fair few of are youth from last year are out on loan (Archer, Bidace, Hayden, A.Ramsey, Barry, Raikhy). Players like Young, Revan(s) were also on loan until recently, Chuka Jr is also on loan i think. Chuka Jr is spending a lot of time with the senior team, as well as Chrisene now he is fit. Its probably more that our "new" younger batch now need to develop and kick on, we just need to give them some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 On 15/04/2022 at 20:04, useless said: I haven't seen it so don't know if he had much to do, but he came on for the last fifteen minutes in England's 3 0 against Mexico yesterday, video should start at that moment. On the secret scout it shows a penalty save by him today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just looked it up, England drew 1-1 with Portual and then beat them on penalties, as well as his penalty save in normal time he also saved two penalties in the penalty shoot-shoot. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 On 16/04/2022 at 23:28, messi11 said: Anyone noticed since Gerrard come in we've being getting absolutely battered at u23 and u18 level. Are we playing the same tactics as the first team? Yep it has been noticed. More to do with lack of players of a certain age i reckon. All the good 18 and 19 year olds are with the first team or on loan apart from Lindley and Brad Young currently. Difficult to compete against teams on average 2 years older than us with a defence that tends to be either 16 or 17 or sometimes 18. But yes. We are losing far more often since Gerrard came in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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