Moderator OutByEaster? Posted March 4, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 4, 2020 Marched up the stand at Tottenham tonight to try to fight his own fans. Apparently his brother had been insulted (and he'd noticed from 50 yards away). Jose has defended him, but I have a feeling the Premier league will take a different view. Be interesting to see what Spurs fans make of it too - he could be on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator OutByEaster? Posted March 5, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Will be interested to hear Diers comments on this, very odd situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator OutByEaster? Posted March 5, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2020 And there's now some confusion about whether "his brother" was his brother or whether it was Gedson Fernandes. This was originally reported as a response to racist abuse of Fernandes, but Jose has issued a statement that throws lot of confusion onto that. As said on the other thread, I wonder if this is Spurs closing ranks because "Dier lost his head" is an easier sell to sponsors than "We've got a problem with racism". The allegation earlier in the season from Rudiger went away after no evidence could be found and I'm guessing the last thing Spurs would want is another incident on the back of that bit of suspicion. if he's responding to racism, fair play to him - although for me, there's never a good case for a player to enter the stands - any more than there is for a fan to enter the field of play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator OutByEaster? Posted March 5, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2020 Some world class arse covering going on at Tottenham tonight - those Spurs fans in the Spurs seats? Not Spurs fans at all - corporate fans - neutrals really, maybe even fans of other clubs, but definitely not Spurs, perish the thought. That's great news for Tottneham, because now they can be racists and Eric can be heroic and no one linked to Tottenham is bad at all. Genius. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51747014 Quote The incident happened in the area behind the dugouts, which is a corporate section, and Mourinho criticised it for not housing "real Tottenham fans". He added: "The people that are in these privileged positions by the tunnel, of course some are Tottenham fans. "But I think a lot of corporate, a lot of invitation, a lot of people with special status [are in there] and probably it is the place of the stadium where I sometimes have doubts over if they are the real Tottenham fans, because these [real fans] are the ones who support the boys until the last." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 There's video footage of him saying "He's my brother, he's my brother". I'm guessing something like this happened: He goes over after the game to wave to his family Someone shouts abuse at him His brother gets in a fight with the bloke Dier sees it kicking off and goes charging up to help I'm not sure it's crime of the century. The whole racism things seems to just be random Twitter guesswork relating to the fact Gedson missed a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Tell you what; this Amazon documentary about Spurs 2019/20 season might be nearly as good as the Sunderland one was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter TheAuthority Posted March 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Whatever the story behind it he's a flippin idiot. Cantona was one thing but Dier could have ended up inciting a riot. The FA will, and should ban him for a long time. You just can't do that. What an idiot. Edited March 5, 2020 by TheAuthority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Always had Dier down as a fake hardman but proved me wrong How bad is the noise and atmosphere if he could directly find the abuser 20 rows up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 The FanCam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Banned for the rest of the season and out of the Euro's? Unless it was a matter of life or death (it wasn't) then you can't really do something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 If it was for a genuine reason and he went there with best intentions then i can understand (to a degree). However, in today's smartphone society, did he really think it was going to end well for him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) All I saw was "To Dare Is To Do" Probably some MK-Ultra stuff Edited March 5, 2020 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, mottaloo said: If it was for a genuine reason and he went there with best intentions then i can understand (to a degree). However, in today's smartphone society, did he really think it was going to end well for him ? There were 50,000 eye witnesses too. Smartphones have got nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Sad part is this has been coming, football fans like society have become more vile in recent times. Was only a matter of time before a player snapped 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, The_Rev said: There were 50,000 eye witnesses too. Smartphones have got nothing to do with it. Right....ok....i guess i need to be more specific here. Those nearby with smartphones will have filmed it, picking up any dialogue that the other 49,950 witnesses couldn't.....and yes, this IS a reflection of today's society where filming a fight, tragedy or other such happenings seems to be the primary thought in a lot of minds, rather than going to help or offer practical support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Fans can be idiots no doubt, additionally stewards and the clubs should deal with bad fans better. A player jumping into the crowd and chasing a fan is just idiotic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Fans can be idiots no doubt, additionally stewards and the clubs should deal with bad fans better. A player jumping into the crowd and chasing a fan is just idiotic though. 6 months ago a fan jumped on the pitch and attacked Jack, then a steward stamped on him celebrating. If Jack retaliated then he would have probably got a ban. Footballers are humans I dont see the problem, real fans wont get in the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I think if anyone saw their younger sibling in an altercation they would want to defend them. Obviously he f**ked up but I can understand the reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 05/03/2020 at 12:53, mottaloo said: Right....ok....i guess i need to be more specific here. Those nearby with smartphones will have filmed it, picking up any dialogue that the other 49,950 witnesses couldn't.....and yes, this IS a reflection of today's society where filming a fight, tragedy or other such happenings seems to be the primary thought in a lot of minds, rather than going to help or offer practical support. Again, witnesses would have picked up dialogue in any era and the bystander effect was documented as being a real thing in the human psyche fifty years before everybody had a smartphone. Basically the more people who are in in the immediate vicinity of incident, the less likely an individual witness is to step in and get involved, presumably because they think somebody else will do it. Weirdly the people who seem most annoyed by this are people who weren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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