bickster Posted November 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, PaulC said: Thats crap. That's normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Genie said: I guess they are technically right, it’s like googling any symptom and it’s always “potentially” cancer. 99.9% of times it isn’t. Eh? It was me questioning whether it was or not. The ever so reliable diagnosis was "I don't think it is, just keep an eye on it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Eh? It was me questioning whether it was or not. The ever so reliable diagnosis was "I don't think it is, just keep an eye on it" Sorry, I thought from what you’d said this person had said it might be cancer without really knowing what they were on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2020 So after 1 week of the mass testing program in Liverpool. Some approximate stats: Population: 500,000 People Tested: 90,000 People found positive, that previously didn't know they had the virus: 300 (This is a complete guess based on 164 figure announced after about 4 days) The rate has been falling across the region anyway, there are very few wards in Purple on the Covid Dashboard Map (Compare that eastwards towards Raintown and beyond - sea of purple) and the effects of this Testing will not be apparent in those figures for at least another week. The rolling stats are a week behind so anything announced today even will before any effect of the testing. Even "Lockdown 2" won't really be having much of an effect on these figures yet and I doubt it will given we were in Tier 3 for a month previously So less than 20% of the population tested and they are encouraging everyone to go once a week My conclusion is that the current set up isn't going to work as they imagined but they'll use the falling rate as part of the success story, even though it's falling anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 There’s interesting lock-down talks going on. The government is worried that easing this lock-down is going to cause panic buying for both Christmas and Brexit. That’s likely to cause a massive spike in infections and hospital admissions over Christmas. But not opening the shops and restaurants isn’t going to be popular and will cause economic disaster for some companies. But overwhelming hospitals over Christmas is equally unpalatable. Planners have been asked to consider what could be closed down in December or what new restrictions could be applied on us all to offset the shops reopening. Boris’s delay in implementing the lock-down is now acknowledged as a huge mistake. At the time of writing there’s no good solution to this problem. There’s bad solutions and very bad solutions. This could easily see Boris thrown to the wolves by the Conservative MP’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: This could easily see Boris thrown to the wolves by the Conservative MP’s. Oh they'll wait until he's done "The Deal" first Then we'll have another extreme throbber vs throbber contest and the extreme throbber will win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lapal_fan Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: There’s interesting lock-down talks going on. The government is worried that easing this lock-down is going to cause panic buying for both Christmas and Brexit. That’s likely to cause a massive spike in infections and hospital admissions over Christmas. But not opening the shops and restaurants isn’t going to be popular and will cause economic disaster for some companies. But overwhelming hospitals over Christmas is equally unpalatable. Planners have been asked to consider what could be closed down in December or what new restrictions could be applied on us all to offset the shops reopening. Boris’s delay in implementing the lock-down is now acknowledged as a huge mistake. At the time of writing there’s no good solution to this problem. There’s bad solutions and very bad solutions. This could easily see Boris thrown to the wolves by the Conservative MP’s. How can we blame Boris for this?! It's not his fault some people are continously refusing to wear masks, that conspiracy theorists are taking off left, right an centre and not listening to his clear and concise messages from March - It's not his fault we allowed 5,000 Atheltico Madrid fans to Liverpool in March, it's not his fault we let 250,000 people go an have a good time in Cheltenham (some of the donkey's on here as well!) despite we could see what was happening 20 miles across the channel and in Italy. It's not his fault the scientists can't get it right and that he has to protect his personal friends because they're not listening to him either. HOw CaN anY Of ThiS bE BOjo'S FaUlT?! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The second U.K. lockdown was a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Genie said: Might be specific to ours but it’s pretty much impossible to get through. They have a recorded message saying to try again later and no answer machine function. Maybe we're lucky but ours have been really good to be honest. You get put in a queue, which is usually very long but it goes down pretty quickly, and then you arrange a phone appointment with a doctor. They call you and if you're in need of a face to face then you come in. Prescriptions you can email the surgery and they fulfill it for you and send it to a nominate pharmacy. I've done it 3 times over the past 3 months and each time I've had an email or a text back in a couple of hours saying it's been done and it's at the pharmacy in 48 hours. I've been quietly impressed. but that might be because my old GP surgery in acocks green was **** diabolical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, LondonLax said: The second U.K. lockdown was a terrible idea. If we'd have done it PROPERLY at any point, the virus would be extinct - people are too **** stupid to realise. Shut down EVERYTHING for 1 month, it's gone. the economy will suffer WAY more as we are seeing, if we keep farting around, opening and closing things on a whim. It's **** pathetic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2020 I think the lockdown was the right thing to do, but it was done 2 months too late. You'd have thought we'd have learned our lesson from, you know, the first time this happened 6 months ago when we made the exact same **** mistake 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just had a patient turn up for an appointment despite her son who she lives with testing positive yesterday. How aren't people still getting this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: If we'd have done it PROPERLY at any point, the virus would be extinct - people are too **** stupid to realise. Shut down EVERYTHING for 1 month, it's gone. the economy will suffer WAY more as we are seeing, if we keep farting around, opening and closing things on a whim. It's **** pathetic. It would take a lot longer than a month. Melbourne got theirs under control (starting from much lower numbers) with 10 weeks of hard lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think the lockdown was the right thing to do, but it was done 2 months too late. You'd have thought we'd have learned our lesson from, you know, the first time this happened 6 months ago when we made the exact same **** mistake In any other walk of life having a team of experts advise you do something (on a life and death situation), ignoring them, then much later realising they were right and doing it in a half arsed way you’d be at least sacked and possibly sent to jail. Not our Boris though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It would take a lot longer than a month. Melbourne got theirs under control (starting from much lower numbers) with 10 weeks of hard lockdown. I don’t think the intention is to get it under control, it’s to take enough sting out of it until the vaccine is deployed so the NHS isn’t overrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Elon Musk reckons he’s taken 4 tests in one day and two have come back positive and two negative. Im currently sat in a private hospital having had some minor surgery this morning and it transpires that the staff here are tested once every two weeks. You’d think they would be tested daily but then that might show up the tests for what they actually are potentially. I always found it odd that we magically came up with a way to prove that people have COVID-19 when we’ve never previously been able to test for any other of the COVID family of viruses (flu, cold etc), at least not to my knowledge anyway. What if it did transpire that the tests are totally redundant and random, where would that leave us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Elon Musk reckons he’s taken 4 tests in one day and two have come back positive and two negative. I trust what he says even less than Nigel Farage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Genie said: I trust what he says even less than Nigel Farage. Yeah I get that he’s a loony but I find it odd that nurses and medial staff are not being tested daily. I’d love to know if anyone has taken a test every day for say, a week or longer and what the results were, whether it was consistent or not. I don’t care if it’s deemed conspiratorial or not but I am becoming more and more concerned with the legitimacy of some of the news around all this, I don’t trust the media and I don’t trust the government so it kinda makes it hard to just accept everything as truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: Yeah I get that he’s a loony but I find it odd that nurses and medial staff are not being tested daily. NHS wide instruction.Turn off the Test and Track App when at work. That tells you all you need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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