rodders0223 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Exactly the same as Bazunu too. Goalkeeper now is easily the toughest position on the pitch, you're asked so much. Think it happened with Angus Gunn too for a big big fee. You can't just be a 21 year old keeper anymore and come in and make a few Hollywood saves. edit : though tbf Bazunu couldn't save a word document. Edited November 14, 2023 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 13/11/2023 at 14:57, andym said: Burnley remind me a bit of us when we first came up - a mix of young, inexperienced players and basically past it players. They actually play ok stuff in the middle of the park, but have big issues at either end of the pitch, in particular they are really easy to score against. Joint worst goal difference in the league. We stayed up because during the Covid break Deano was able to swallow his pride and accept we couldn't play exactly as he wanted and needed to tighten up at the back. We improved enough to stay up by the skin of our teeth. The question for Burnley is whether Kompany can do the same. Do Burnley have any players on the level of Grealish, Luiz, McGinn, Mings, Konsa etc.? I guess they're banking on the young players they've signed fulfilling their potential to a similar degree to how ours did back then. I think Koleosho looks a good prospect and Amdouni did impressive numbers in Belgium. Also, Lyle Foster could be a decent striker if they can get him back playing consistently. Not sure I see many real prospects elsewhere (although everyone looks bad when the team is losing meekly most weeks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 They're so shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 40 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: They're so shit. We nearly drew with them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Why does every pundit suck off Kompany? Just on the overlap week or two ago it was Neville saying he's on to bigger and better things and all you hear is how impressive he is. Why? He got a parachute team promoted. Big **** woop. They're a shambles. Be a PL winning captain. You'll get smoke blown up your arse no matter how shite you are for the next 30 years. Bruce and Gerrard. Top top managers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 25 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25 Trafford is an absolutely catastrophic keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Trafford is an absolutely catastrophic keeper I don’t think he’s that bad but isn’t helped by an extremely substandard defence and midfield in front of him. he’s very young and lacks experience, which can’t be helped - I think he’ll go on to have a decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Trafford is one of the worst keepers have seen at this level. He makes Nyland or Sam Johnstone look quality Whoever sanctioned the transfer should be sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Watch when he plays, he's the only goalkeeper in world football that plays blind passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I think Trafford has potential but he shouldn't have been thrown into premier league football at 20 years old in an awful team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 25 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: I don’t think he’s that bad but isn’t helped by an extremely substandard defence and midfield in front of him. he’s very young and lacks experience, which can’t be helped - I think he’ll go on to have a decent career. He might go on to have a good career but at the moment he is completely shit Edited February 25 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He might go on to have a good career but at the moment he is completely shit …In a poor team - what chance does he have? wish we’d stop continually labelling players shit or the worst ever etc etc. the hyperbole when describing players is pathetically childish - it’s like being in a school playground. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I was bigging them up in pre season, got that one totally and utterly wrong! They're still making the same mistakes now they did in August, complete waste of a season for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, theboyangel said: …In a poor team - what chance does he have? wish we’d stop continually labelling players shit or the worst ever etc etc. the hyperbole when describing players is pathetically childish - it’s like being in a school playground. Jump was too big really, was playing in league one last year. Needed a season in the championship first. Or even Burnley to sign an experienced keeper (I'm sure they were linked with getting Heaton back last summer) who they could've put in for a spell when Trafford struggled. Teams have realised if you crowd around him at set pieces he hasn't really filled out so plenty of set piece goals to score v them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The most naive promoted team I can remember in a good while. They’d probably concede far more than Sheff Utd without Trafford in goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, VillaChris said: Jump was too big really, was playing in league one last year. Needed a season in the championship first. Or even Burnley to sign an experienced keeper (I'm sure they were linked with getting Heaton back last summer) who they could've put in for a spell when Trafford struggled. Teams have realised if you crowd around him at set pieces he hasn't really filled out so plenty of set piece goals to score v them. Totally agree with this. Hopefully it won’t damage him too much as previously with other young keepers. It’s a tricky position to learn your trade at a young age as generally you sit on the bench waiting for an injury to give you a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Jump was too big really, was playing in league one last year. Needed a season in the championship first. Or even Burnley to sign an experienced keeper (I'm sure they were linked with getting Heaton back last summer) who they could've put in for a spell when Trafford struggled. Teams have realised if you crowd around him at set pieces he hasn't really filled out so plenty of set piece goals to score v them. They have Muric who is also ex City but played all last season and is an international but Kompany is apparently too stubborn to drop Trafford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: Totally agree with this. Hopefully it won’t damage him too much as previously with other young keepers. It’s a tricky position to learn your trade at a young age as generally you sit on the bench waiting for an injury to give you a chance. It's a bit like Bazunu. He has talent but as last season went on he started making errors most weeks because of how bad Southampton were. I presume he's been better this season. Burnley will just have to regroup again but it's an interesting sell to their fanbase to basically say we'll just be a yo yo team now compared to the pretty stable prem team they were for 5-6 years under Dyche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Trafford is a good player but of course will make mistakes because of his young age and the position he plays in those mistakes will be more costly and playing at Premier League level will be punished more often Last season Bolton only conceded 36 goals in the league, the second best defence in the division, Trafford kept 22 cleansheets, that's some going for a twenty year old, most young goalkeepers have to drop into non-league for a loan, even highly rated ones, so for him to get a move to League One and then do as well as he did shows his promise But probably not ready to be a starter every week in the Premier League, and even more difficult playing for Burnley, I imagine a lot of keepers wouldn't look great playing for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 25 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25 17 minutes ago, theboyangel said: …In a poor team - what chance does he have? wish we’d stop continually labelling players shit or the worst ever etc etc. the hyperbole when describing players is pathetically childish - it’s like being in a school playground. Doesn’t matter about the team. Luton have a poor team but Kaminski is having a good season, for example. It’s not Trafford’s fault. He’s been signed and thrown into a team when he’s nowhere near ready. He’s crap. Are we meant to pretend he’s good because he’s young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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