Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 hours ago, bickster said: Germany sending the first of four IRIS-T SLM air defence systems to Ukraine ASAP Like they couldn't have done that months ago but hey ho It would have been quicker for the UK to buy them and then receive the shipment and ship out again to Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Obviously, Vlad didn't get his own memo. I'm sure I thought I heard him say Zaporizhzhia was in Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: It would have been quicker for the UK to buy them and then receive the shipment and ship out again to Ukraine. Not so sure, I read up on it further and these were ordered and made specifically for Ukraine they are more advanced and capable than anything Germany has itself. So as well as being specifically made, they also had to have Ukrainians to train to use them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: They know they can never win this war so just seek to destroy. It's a proper brilliant video, heart rate increased it was really weird. They can't destroy forever, every time Russia fire anything is a day closer to them running out of something. They probably have put some away for a rainy day, stole some and then proceeded to move it to entirely inappropriate storage facilities for the ammunition at hand. Like, someone's Nan's house, becasue she has a big spare room. Inventory integrity is not their strong point I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bickster said: Not so sure, I read up on it further and these were ordered and made specifically for Ukraine they are more advanced and capable than anything Germany has itself. So as well as being specifically made, they also had to have Ukrainians to train to use them Fair enough, thx. I will let them off this time, but I am watching them. Edited October 10, 2022 by Amsterdam_Neil_D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I'm sure I thought I heard him say Zaporizhzhia was in Russia. I think he was talking about the nuclear power plant which is 60km straight line distance away in Enerhodar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bickster said: Enerhodar Is that by Alderaan, just past Tatooine. Edited October 10, 2022 by Amsterdam_Neil_D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: Ukraine *are* forcing them out, though. Then Putin needs an excuse for why he's been forced out. "We had to redeploy to a different front to defend our allies" might be more palatable internally than, "we got whooped by those Ukrainian Nazis". But yeah just a thought, not based on any evidence... just struggling to understand what Putin gets out of this Belarus ploy!? It may well be to try and distract Ukrainian forces but there is zero chance of it working tbh. Both Vlad and his fat pal have talked so much crap they're like the boys who cried wolf. I just don't see Russia leaving Ukraine anytime soon. They've been plotted in Crimea and the Donbas for 8 years, so they can't just walk away after all the bullshit in regard to annexation of territory. Things will de-escalate at some point, but the end won't be anytime soon imo and many more will die in the process. What people need to understand is Putin has signed Russia up to decades of problems. Anyone in the West not expecting this to continue for some time yet are going to be severely disappointed because even without Putin Warlords/Governors will still exist in these lands. Even if he died tomorrow the devastation has been such that it will take lifetimes to forget what has been done between nations and the communities within. Some f***ing legacy he will leave. We in the West need to get real about the problems in Ukraine. Stop pissing about and give them sufficient armament in order to push Russia out the door for good and control these regions. Otherwise get used to the fact we are going to get f***ed over by our own governments for the foreseeable future while they continue to stroke each others egos, pretending they're doing all they can while drip feeding Ukraine just enough to keep going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: It would have been quicker for the UK to buy them and then receive the shipment and ship out again to Ukraine. Not since brexit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Little bits like this make me smile. Russian New car sales (1 month compare) June 2021 = 155,000 June 2022 = 25,000 Most don't have ABS anymore either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Not since brexit. Fair point, embarrassed myself there to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted October 11, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 Fast Work in Dnipro Yesterday Today Can Ukrainians come and run my council please 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Delphinho123 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Looks like something is happening in Belarus. Polish embassy telling all their citizens to leave. It's being reported Putin will have another crack at Kyiv via Belarus. Can somebody like @KentVillanor @magnkarl tell me why this is going to fail? IF it is going to fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Panto_Villan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Looks like something is happening in Belarus. Polish embassy telling all their citizens to leave. It's being reported Putin will have another crack at Kyiv via Belarus. Can somebody like @KentVillanor @magnkarl tell me why this is going to fail? IF it is going to fail? Because the Belarus army is significantly shitter than the Russian army, and the Russians couldn’t take Kyiv even with a degree of surprise on their side. Now the Ukrainians have better gear than before, have a lot more battlefield experience, and are presumably pretty heavily dug in around there in a way they weren’t previously. It’d be a great way for Belarus to lose its army. And if they didn’t fancy joining in the initial attack I don’t see why they’d fancy their chances any more now. Doesn’t make any sense to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Looks like something is happening in Belarus. Polish embassy telling all their citizens to leave. It's being reported Putin will have another crack at Kyiv via Belarus. Can somebody like @KentVillanor @magnkarl tell me why this is going to fail? IF it is going to fail? Its going to fail because the troops Russia has sent have had little more than a weeks training. Belarus has very little in the way of front line troops. It's also very doubtful that Belarus troops are even going to take part if anything happens. They are just as likely to turn on Luka and there will be a coup. It failed the first time when Russia sent it's best troops and Ukraine wasn't anywhere near as well equipped, manned or trained. It will fail, I still have my doubts that it will happen.If it does happen, it will be a another shitshow for Russia and Belarus will eventually get rid of Luka, probably much quicker than it would happen naturally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, bickster said: They are just as likely to turn on Luka and there will be a coup. Putin might take Belarus, he will never take Ukraine and needs Square Miles of extra land from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Putin might take Belarus, I doubt Putin has the troops to take Belarus at this stage. If he does that, he'll only be further weakening his position in Ukraine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I get the impression Lukashenko didn't want to or wasn't able to (take your pick) get involved, otherwise he would have contributed long before now. It sounds like he's had the hard word from Putin though, he's only kept in power through Putin's patronage after all. Russian leadership sees Belarus as just another region of Russia and if mainland Russian regions are contributing (even having their citizens drafted) whilst Belarus are getting a free pass to watch from the sidelines then that's going to have caused some frustrations back in Mother Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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