BOF Posted May 30, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: absolutely no idea why we are favorites when we finished 13th 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If bruce can get these guys playing, scoring goals (which they are capable of doing) i think we could really be a menace in this league You've answered your own question. The bookie has to be wary of the best case scenario. IF we click then we're the biggest threat in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 30, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Whats promotion odds? might stick a tenner on boro 10/1 is good odds I can only get their outright odds at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, BOF said: You've answered your own question. The bookie has to be wary of the best case scenario. IF we click then we're the biggest threat in the league. Its so true after reading that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 4 hours ago, BOF said: Now that we know the line-up, here are BetVictor's current odds for next season's Championship. 6/1 - Aston Villa 8/1 - Norwich 10/1 - Middlesbrough 10/1 - Sheffield Wednesday 10/1 - Fulham 12/1 - Derby County 14/1 - Sunderland 16/1 - Hull City 16/1 - Wolves 16/1 - Leeds United 16/1 - Reading 20/1 - Brentford 25/1 - Sheffield United 25/1 - Notts Forest 25/1 - Cardiff City 25/1 - Bristol City 40/1 - Preston North End 40/1 - sha 50/1 - QPR 66/1 - Millwall 66/1 - Barnsley 66/1 - Ipswich 100/1 - Bolton Wanderers 100/1 - Burton Albion I stuck a quid on Bolton for the simple reason that being a promoted side they could do well and it's not beyond possibility to go up twice, and they seem over-priced for a biggish side. Why are Sheffield United so high? Did they storm League One? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/29/2017 at 18:12, VillaChris said: I like seeing new teams in the top flight anyway. Huddersfield haven't played in the top division for 45 years, Reading played prem 3 times in last 10 years and have brought very little to the league. Same reasons why I wanted Sheff Weds to beat Hull in last seasons game. in fairness they brought NIcky Shorey and Steve Sidwell to our attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Why are Sheffield United so high? Did they storm League One? They won it by nearly 15 points plus back to back promotions seem more common these days so bookies probably dont want to get stung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 30, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Why are Sheffield United so high? Did they storm League One? They got 100pts and won the league by 14pts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 15 hours ago, striker said: Thought he was bang average yesterday. Reminded me so much of another midfielder who Villa sold to Burnley. Would much rather have Fulham's Tom Cairney. The game itself was turgid with a total lack of quality on show. How Villa didn't beat these two teams to the playoffs is beyond me. Didn't see the final so I can't comment on his game, but he offers a lot more going forward than AW usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Cardiff are surely good each way odds there, we know Warnock's record at this level and they had a strong second half of the season. They'll easily be top 6 contenders. I know a few on this forum don't rate Rowett but look at their squad. Derby will be automatic contenders although they have an Arsenal like tendency to bottle things at crucial stages of the season. Wouldn't touch any of the relegated teams, don't even know who'll manage any of them yet so should be an advantage for us that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 31, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 The odds on Villa are ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: The odds on Villa are ridiculous. I thought the same about Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 as of now those odds are like FM. All conjecture of what should be without even considering what a f***up we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 1, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: as of now those odds are like FM. All conjecture of what should be without even considering what a f***up we are. You should contact them straight away and let them know their error. Don't keep that stuff bottled up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 1, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2017 sha in to 25/1 today from 50/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, BOF said: You should contact them straight away and let them know their error. Don't keep that stuff bottled up. but do you think they'd listen to reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 1, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: but do you think they'd listen to reasoning? No I think the bookie knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, BOF said: No I think the bookie knows what he's talking about. regarding setting odds for people to give them a pool of money yes. They win from losing bets not neccessarily being of knowledge they give odds only for the wedge to get thinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 1, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: regarding setting odds for people to give them a pool of money yes. They win from losing bets not neccessarily being of knowledge they give odds only for the wedge to get thinner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Think Bolton have run into money trouble again. Mid table would be a very good season for them. I think the basic reasoning for us being favourites is probably law of averages....e.g. a club of our size will eventually get out of this division like Sheffield eventually did from league one and Pompey from league 2. So Bookies won't want to price us up and then see it all click and us romp home with 100 points from a 20-1 shot or something. That and neutral punters who wouldn't be analysing to death like we do on here will look at SB and his 4 promotions, a good squad of championship players and our general history of being a top flight team for the last 30 years and think yeah Villa will go back up this season and lump on. So those two factors meet and you get us as favourites. Same criteria they'd have used for Newcastle last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I think Barnsley will be o.k. They score goals, Heckinbottom showed he was a capable manager at this level and they have a great record of signing players from lower down the leagues and turning them into saleable assets. Sorry to be quoting you cross-threads. Just wanted to bring the discussion into a more appropriate thread. I'd say they're basing those odds on the fact that over the last half of last season - a full 23 games - Barnsley were 22nd in the league, and one of the sides below them was Rotherham who are now gone. The other being our dear neighbours. So if that form were to continue ... Barnsley would be doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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