Nicho Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: It’s ridiculous that they keep writing immigration policies that are always destined to be rejected. The millions / billions wasted on it whilst nurses use food banks is disgusting. Almost like they know it doesn’t pass scrutiny. But allows 3 things to happen: 1) Stir up the support from the ones frothing at the mouth against the poor brown people they dislike. 2) Take focus away from other terrible things they have caused, energy/food/brexit ect. 3) Blame labour and/or anyone that stands for free speech/law for blocking it. All while the master plan to steal as much wealth as possible is underway, the banks are probably being deregulated or something dodgy related to tax is happening. For what it’s worth I don’t think Braverman like Gullis, Anderson, Dorries et al is clever enough to be part of a master plan. Swept along with the rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Nicho said: Almost like they know it doesn’t pass scrutiny. But allows 3 things to happen: 1) Stir up the support from the ones frothing at the mouth against the poor brown people they dislike. 2) Take focus away from other terrible things they have caused, energy/food/brexit ect. 3) Blame labour and/or anyone that stands for free speech/law for blocking it. All while the master plan to steal as much wealth as possible is underway, the banks are probably being deregulated or something dodgy related to tax is happening. For what it’s worth I don’t think Braverman like Gullis, Anderson, Dorries et al is clever enough to be part of a master plan. Swept along with the rhetoric. I don’t see how they can possibly think these ideas will fly. At the very first brain storming there would be someone piping up to raise concerns about international law, legal challenges etc. They decide to push ahead regardless knowing it’s millions of pounds wasted. All to stoke the fire some more foreigners = bad foreigners = no money for public services foreigners = taking your jobs and stopping wage growth foreigners = the reason you can’t see your gp Some people still lap it up, we all know people that will. Saying that, I think this pool is getting smaller and smaller. People are seeing through the racist Tory bullshit more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 They don't mind spunking the public's cash. Our services break down and their chums pick up the pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I don’t see how they can possibly think these ideas will fly. At the very first brain storming there would be someone piping up to raise concerns about international law, legal challenges etc. They decide to push ahead regardless knowing it’s millions of pounds wasted. All to stoke the fire some more foreigners = bad foreigners = no money for public services foreigners = taking your jobs and stopping wage growth foreigners = the reason you can’t see your gp Some people still lap it up, we all know people that will. Saying that, I think this pool is getting smaller and smaller. People are seeing through the racist Tory bullshit more and more. Because it’s not about the money or not atleast our money being wasted, they don’t care. The only way they stay in power now is via this bullshit. That power allows them to continue lining their own pockets/placing people in high places of influence. Stange really as I would see conservatism as low taxation of business which would intern bring more business and innovation and therefore economic success. I believe that people think this is what it is. In practice and always has been it’s the power of the “upper” class over the others, in the hope that they are posh and rich (something most aspire to be) so they know best and will surely operate in our interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Pension reforms to boost pensions is the BBC headline, the reality is your total Pension pot allowance will be increased from £1m to £1.7m (a good move for retaining doctors and it should be targeted at them) and the total you can pay in per year is 100% of your wages or £40k, this is raising to £60k. On the back of this the State Pension age is increasing to 68 for anyone born in 1968 or later. All this clearly benefits the wealthy rather than the poor who rely on State Pension to fund retirement, they are taking the piss. Edited March 14, 2023 by tinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, tinker said: Pension reforms to boost pensions is the BBC headline, the reality is your total Pension pot allowance will be increased from £1m to £1.7m (a good move for retaining doctors and it should be targeted at them) and the total you can pay in per year is 100% of your wages or £40k, this is raising to £60k. Great news if someone can just let me know where do i get the money from to put that into my pension It does make sense for older doctors though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 The UK crime statistics would start to look a lot better just by stopping the Prime Minister from leaving the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nicho said: Because it’s not about the money or not atleast our money being wasted, they don’t care. The only way they stay in power now is via this bullshit. That power allows them to continue lining their own pockets/placing people in high places of influence. Stange really as I would see conservatism as low taxation of business which would intern bring more business and innovation and therefore economic success. I believe that people think this is what it is. In practice and always has been it’s the power of the “upper” class over the others, in the hope that they are posh and rich (something most aspire to be) so they know best and will surely operate in our interest. It's because the whole party has been hijacked. It was happening anyway but putting Johnson in charge was like pressing the accelerator into unashamed personal greed and hard right ideology. Edited March 14, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 hours ago, sidcow said: It's because the whole party has been hijacked. It was happening anyway but putting Johnson in charge was like pressing the accelerator into unashamed personal greed and hard right ideology. I think the appointment of Johnson was just the removal of the mask. It has then let the fully feral members run riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, Nicho said: I think the appointment of Johnson was just the removal of the mask. It has then let the fully feral members run riot. The feral members as you term them had been running riot well before Johnson. The referendum was an attempt to appease them, that had the opposite effect and empowered them and the constituencies to select an ever increasing amount of lunatics Cameron failed to keep a lid on them, so did May, they've just been growing in number since then 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Scraping the barrel now are the Tories in the budget. That magic money tree must have grown a awful lot over the last year. "We are going to throw money at everything, keep the public happy and on our side, even nuclear power". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2023 But we've got cheaper beer in pubs all thanks to BREXIT. I can only assume those nasty unelected EU MP's were setting the price of our British pints. If they'd mentioned THAT on the bus I might voted for it. Can't understand why they kept that one so quite. Anyway we're taking back control of our pumps (apart from the Kiwis and Australians). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2023 Oops. It's like they can't help themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Scraping the barrel now are the Tories in the budget. That magic money tree must have grown a awful lot over the last year. "We are going to throw money at everything, keep the public happy and on our side, even nuclear power". Far more cynical than that. Take the childcare announcement. 15 hours free for two years olds from April 2024 Then a jump for 15 free hours for nine months+ from September 2024 Then another jump to 30 free hours for all parents from September 2025. Now, lets ask ourselves: how likely is it that Jeremy Hunt is going to need to worry AT ALL, about how the Government pays for free childcare from September 2025? It's the equivalent of buying a round of drinks, walking away from the bar and saying that the bloke behind you in the queue is going to pay for them. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yep, that childcare thing is so silly. Why is he announcing plans for things in 2 and a half years time? Especially when there’s a GE we know they’ll lose in the meantime. Like the immigration stuff, I’m sure they create these stupid scenarios to direct attention away from the strikes and crumbling NHS. They’d rather have an uncomfortable conversation about childcare costs in 2.5 years than things they should be fixing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 My god, that Victoria Atkins fits right in as a Tory. Talks absolute rubbish, an really not believable, or likable. We don't want to start increasing salaries if it leads to central depressions". What the????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted March 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 16, 2023 Jeremy Hunt has the scariest eyes I've seen since the Uber vampire out of Salems Lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, sidcow said: Jeremy Hunt has the scariest eyes I've seen since the Uber vampire out of Salems Lot. Here he is with my MP, both looking absolutely normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2023 He said this with a straight face like he believed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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