bickster Posted July 27, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I was lucky enough that grow up in Thatchers Britain Yes, we can tell by the state of your grammar or lack thereof. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: I was lucky enough to be a white male southerner in Thatchers Britain Others were treated like scum by the bitch that had police mobs roaming towns looking for people to beat up. still dead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 28, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: I was lucky enough that grow up in Thatchers Britain... Isn’t the joy of survival just so uplifting. Fist bump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Thatcher divides so many people. Some say she was one of the best ever... Some say she was evil and despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 28, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Thatcher divides so many people. Some say she was one of the best ever... Some say she was evil and despicable. The divide generally starts at Watford, pretty much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Thatcher divides so many people. Some say she was one of the best ever... Some say she was evil and despicable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 tbf she's not the only one .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, bickster said: The divide generally starts at Watford, pretty much doesn't everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 The Tories have torn the country in half and Liam Fox wants you to drink milk filled with hormones and pus from next year. But yeah, it's inevitable that Labour getting in would be the start of a raft of new anti Semitic legislation. Wake up f***wits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Xann said: The Tories have torn the country in half and Liam Fox wants you to drink milk filled with hormones and pus from next year. But yeah, it's inevitable that Labour getting in would be the start of a raft of new anti Semitic legislation. Wake up f***wits. You forgot the obligatory chlorinated chicken reference in your scare story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: You forgot the obligatory chlorinated chicken reference in your scare story Nice to be able to afford the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: tbf she's not the only one .... Although to be fair again She was the one who insisted on his appearing on the honours list despite the advice of SIS eh? And partied the new year in together for a decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 That should be more hormones and more pus surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Anyway to bring it back somewhere near thread relevance, I'd say the battle for the Labour Party being raged now, the comeback of the leftish types and the stronghold of Centre-Right Labour MP's is part of her legacy for sure. Whether Corbyn wins any GE or not is kind of irrelevant to the point of whether Labour is a working class left of centre party or not imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: Whether Corbyn wins any GE or not is kind of irrelevant to the point of whether Labour is a working class left of centre party or not imo. Except the problem is half the Labour party are conspiring to make sure he doesn't win a GE. At the 2016 GE, here, the Labour Party did absolutely no canvassing. Not a leaflet through the door, not a tweet from the candidate. They lost the seat by 2,000 votes on zero promotion of the candidate. It was the local party 'protesting' the direction of the party. The local Labour party decided the incumbent tory was better for us than a Corbyn government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Except the problem is half the Labour party are conspiring to make sure he doesn't win a GE. At the 2016 GE, here, the Labour Party did absolutely no canvassing. Not a leaflet through the door, not a tweet from the candidate. They lost the seat by 2,000 votes on zero promotion of the candidate. It was the local party 'protesting' the direction of the party. The local Labour party decided the incumbent tory was better for us than a Corbyn government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 28, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Except the problem is half the Labour party are conspiring to make sure he doesn't win a GE. At the 2016 GE, here, the Labour Party did absolutely no canvassing. Not a leaflet through the door, not a tweet from the candidate. They lost the seat by 2,000 votes on zero promotion of the candidate. It was the local party 'protesting' the direction of the party. The local Labour party decided the incumbent tory was better for us than a Corbyn government. I guess the local Labour candidate couldn't have been exactly popular with the local LP members, then? I mean if she or he was much liked and respected by the locals, then they'd campaign for her/him whatever stupidity Corbyn's bunch were proposing (in their view)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, blandy said: I guess the local Labour candidate couldn't have been exactly popular with the local LP members, then? I mean if she or he was much liked and respected by the locals, then they'd campaign for her/him whatever stupidity Corbyn's bunch were proposing (in their view)? I couldn't decide to be honest. The candidate was Camilla Bevan, close friend and assistant to our local AM, Jane Hutt. So she was 'connected' and sort of local. But from Penarth and she was stereotypical Penarth. A bit posh, a bit big sunglasses and prosecco. Social media went quiet. She didn't exactly get stuck in to chatting to people from the poorer areas. She was the absolute opposite of a Momentum style candidate. But then we don't have a local Momentum grouping. So it wasn't an internal local labour / momentum quarrel. It was an old school labour area not pushing against an open door to get an MP. They got a 10% gain with no campaigning. The votes of other leftie groups like Plaid, Greens, Womens Equality Party, Liberals etc would have easily more than taken that seat for a Labour candidate. In that there was no organisation at all, the fewest ever posters in windows, no leaflet through the letterbox, no questions answered on twitter and a no show at a local hustings, I kind of presume it was a thrown match. Which takes its own level of co-ordination and buy in from the majority of members I'd have guessed? Anyway, I bypassed Labour all together, as appeared to be their plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I do wonder how long Corbyn will hold out with these continued things coming out about his past. Going on Iranian state TV and talking in fond words about convicted Hamas members being released doesn't exactly reflect well on him. Say what you want about Gaza, but comparing it to WW2 Leningrad (roughly 1.5 million civilians dead) is probably not fit for purpose when the casualties on both sides in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is not much over 10.000 for both sides since the start of the Second Intifada in 2000. I see even McDonnell's in hot water - that can only be good for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 2, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2018 This just highlights what is going on here, in one tweet Some missing facts here, as far as I'm aware, totally unreported by the BBC The person at the said event that likened Israel's treatment of the Palestinians for being like Nazi Germany was, in fact, an ACTUAL HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR Louise Ellman actually attended this event herself and was at the said event for a longer period of time than Corbyn himself. She's a hypocrite with an agenda This also highlights why the IHRA definition's examples are complete and utter bollocks that only serve to stifle debate on Israel and its illegal actions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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