ml1dch Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Yeah, might be better if you sit this one out, y'know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Yeah, might be better if you sit this one out, y'know. Can't think why she deleted it. At least she was encouraged to stand down, and expelled from the Labour party, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 So the Wakefield directed stories have begun. Apparantly they should vote Labour - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/15/wakefields-disillusioned-residents-say-its-time-for-political-change Ahmad Khan’s conviction, Partygate and recent Conservative policies have swayed constituents to the left I thought the lefties hated jewish people. That was the line right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 19, 2022 I don't like him much, but that's a fine effort by Starmer in the house, addressing Johnson's lawbreaking, lies and lack of dignity or respect for the people or the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 So they lied about Rayner being at the poxy drinks event that the Daily Mail are trying to say is equivalent to partygate. The issue is ridiculous - but still there was some dishonesty on Labour's part - not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jareth said: So they lied about Rayner being at the poxy drinks event that the Daily Mail are trying to say is equivalent to partygate. The issue is ridiculous - but still there was some dishonesty on Labour's part - not good. Utter hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) None of what has been reported broke any covid rules at the time. Trouble we have is that 90% of the media hold the opposition to standards that the party actually in government could only dream of reaching. Those actually in power aren't held to account for blatant act after blatant act of taking the piss, breaking laws and telling lies. On top of the above when all else fails make shit up it'll influence some easily led aresehole to stick an X next to a Tory. Edited April 29, 2022 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: None of what has been reported broke any covid rules at the time. Trouble we have is that 90% of the media hold the opposition to standards that the party actually in government could only dream of reaching. Those actually in power aren't held to account for blatant act after blatant act of taking the piss, breaking laws and telling lies. On top of the above when all else fails make shit up it'll influence some easily led aresehole to stick an X next to a Tory. My issue is that Starmer lied to the membership about what he wanted were he elected - and now there has been an entirely unnecessary lie which I think was made in order to keep the pressure on about partygate. I always labelled Boris a liar - but I have to say Starmer is also a liar - are we to decide which liar we prefer? What a shit choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jareth said: My issue is that Starmer lied to the membership about what he wanted were he elected - and now there has been an entirely unnecessary lie which I think was made in order to keep the pressure on about partygate. I always labelled Boris a liar - but I have to say Starmer is also a liar - are we to decide which liar we prefer? What a shit choice. Kind of where im at. Both parties are a disgrace. Its so sad there is no alternative to these two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ingram85 Posted April 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) God people are **** thick. No wonder we’re in the state we’re in. It’s never changing is it. It’s just this shit life governed by rich evil assholes and a populace more interested in a lady crossing her legs than the people in charge causing destruction. No future at all apart for the rich. Edited April 29, 2022 by Ingram85 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jareth said: My issue is that Starmer lied to the membership about what he wanted were he elected So he's a liar because you don't believe him, not because he's actually had a chance to do something and not done it? It's a very novel concept, I'll give you that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Kind of where im at. Both parties are a disgrace. Both parties are a disgrace. Really. It is like labelling two people as arsonists. One who popped down to the local garage and got themselves 10 gallon of petrol, doused your house in it and set it alight with you and your family in it. The other for going into their own garden on a sunny day with a magnifying glass and singeing a small patch of grass. Edited April 29, 2022 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 29, 2022 Starmer's Labour party are a piece of bread that's gone a bit hard at the corner but it's still in date and you could always toast it. This Tory party are a bottle of Sarin. Still, both bad ain't they? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 7 hours ago, bickster said: So he's a liar because you don't believe him, not because he's actually had a chance to do something and not done it? It's a very novel concept, I'll give you that He’s a liar because he has lied - I accept you need to bend the truth in order to gain power but the moral high ground is no longer labours territory. I cannot vote for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jareth said: He’s a liar because he has lied - I accept you need to bend the truth in order to gain power but the moral high ground is no longer labours territory. I cannot vote for it. If there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for or would you not vote at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, markavfc40 said: Both parties are a disgrace. Really. It is like labelling two people as arsonists. One who popped down to the local garage and got themselves 10 gallon of petrol, doused your house in it and set it alight with you and your family in it. The other for going into their own garden on a sunny day with a magnifying glass and singeing a small patch of grass. You only say that because your a labour supporter mark, if this was boris you would be criticising him. Both parties are dreadful Edited April 30, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Jareth said: He’s a liar because he has lied - I accept you need to bend the truth in order to gain power but the moral high ground is no longer labours territory. I cannot vote for it. I don’t think there’s been even one Labour politician in history who has never told a lie. That seems an impossible standard to hold him to. If your view is that Starmer isn’t left enough and you’d rather continue with the Tories in power than see him elected then just say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: I don’t think there’s been even one Labour politician in history who has never told a lie. That seems an impossible standard to hold him to. If your view is that Starmer isn’t left enough and you’d rather continue with the Tories in power than see him elected then just say that. That whole argument just makes me so mad. I have an uncle that’s very “old labour” who won’t vote for starmers labour because he doesn’t think it’s “proper labour”. It’s a childish and pathetic attitude. Even if you believe this labour incarnation is far from perfect, and many do, even those not on the hard left, it’s surely better than the pure evil we have now? I genuinely think there’s an element that wants to burn the whole house down because they aren’t happy with the wallpaper. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted April 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2022 52 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: You only say that because your a labour supporter mark, if this was boris you would be criticising him. Both parties are dreadful Boris is being criticized for breaking the laws that he implemented. Starmer appears to being criticized for doing some similar things, but at a different time that didn't break the law. This "all the same" bollocks is quite tiring. Labour isn't perfect, Starmer is far from perfect, but if you've watched the shit this government has been getting away with, particularly since 2019, and still think "they're all the same", there's no helping you 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: If there was an election tomorrow who would you vote for or would you not vote at all? Plaid Cymru - for real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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