foreveryoung Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 They know about a takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As I said, might be nonsense. It's from my mother. Mothers know best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) The worst bit from that piece was: Last summer he spent £17m, which does not buy you much these days – certainly not the European place the supporters covet. What a moron. To think he got paid to write such tripe. So what's wrong with what he's written there then? Our fans expected Lambert to qualify us for Europe? News to me. Edited April 28, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I didnt think Lambert would ever get us into Europe, but I did expect at least a little progress from last season. The fact we are a worse team than when he took over and that results and performances have been worse than McLeish is what has sealed his fate. He's been a disastrous manager and a massive disappointment for us considering the reputation he bought with him. I thought he'd do better quite frankly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 That bit of ITK info perfectly describes the team ive been watching since chelsea tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1chuk Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Should play the kids if the first teamers can't be arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ha Ha! Seems a long time ago the pro Lambert's were raving we are 10th what more do we want???? Better than McLeish, I wish I really do!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Should play the kids if the first teamers can't be arsed. Well, the rumours were that's what Cowans was saying, at least the play the kids bit, and that sparked a row with Culverhouse. Perhaps putting Sid in charge would see more kids get a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ha Ha! Seems a long time ago the pro Lambert's were raving we are 10th what more do we want???? Better than McLeish, I wish I really do!!! Do you enjoy posting this drivel? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Sid should have come in after the Fulham or Palace game to be honest, its too late now. It wouldn't make a difference. We are relying on other teams not picking up enough points to relegate us, but by god do we deserve it this time. Worst Villa team since Billy McNeill and we add absolutely nothing to this league in our current shambolic state. Let the dead duck have his three games and then when the final whistle has gone give him the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 28, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) The worst bit from that piece was: Last summer he spent £17m, which does not buy you much these days – certainly not the European place the supporters covet.What a moron. To think he got paid to write such tripe. So what's wrong with what he's written there then?Our fans expected Lambert to qualify us for Europe? News to me. Doesn't say that though does it? It says we want to be in Europe. Is that not true? It also says £17m won't get us there. Is that not true either? Edited April 28, 2014 by NurembergVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Now isnt the time obviously, lets get safe first but I'll be very disappointed if he isnt sacked approximately 7 seconds after the final whistle versus Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The worst bit from that piece was: Last summer he spent £17m, which does not buy you much these days – certainly not the European place the supporters covet.What a moron. To think he got paid to write such tripe. So what's wrong with what he's written there then? Our fans expected Lambert to qualify us for Europe? News to me. Doesn't say that though does it? It says we want to be in Europe. Is that not true? It also says £17m won't get us there. Is that not true either? If you want to read it out of the context of the article, that's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 28, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 28, 2014 That's how you quoted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ha Ha! Seems a long time ago the pro Lambert's were raving we are 10th what more do we want???? Better than McLeish, I wish I really do!!! Do you enjoy posting this drivel? I enjoy posting the truth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 That's how you quoted it. My post was aimed at those who had actually read the article though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shaw_nuff Posted April 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2014 Oh God, are we going to end up with some weird concoction of sacked has-beens: Moyes, Allardyce and Pardew......... Myldew. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Deeps in Paul Lambert (thread), Villa-revolutions idea of porn. Classic post dodgyknees. Thanks for making me laugh & smile at the same time. Take a bow son! Take a bow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 My point is perhaps simpler than my earlier 'essay'. This team is awful, the majority of the players are substandard, it's some of the worst football ever played at Villa Park and we've broken loads of awful records. All almost undisputable facts. Is Lambert responsible? Yes, but it's the amount of responsibility you assign. For me it's way less than Lerner and sufficient enough to give him the benefit of the doubt if a new owner arrives. If Lerner stays we're f*cked with Lambert or Guardiola in charge. Lambert's pricer buys have been Benteke (£7m), Vlaar (£3m), Kozak (£7m), Okore (£4m) and Bacuna (£3m) of which two are success, two are seriously injured and the final one is at worst mixed. All his other signings have been cheap punts, successful with likes of Westwood or disasters in shape of Tonev. No, our position isn't OK, but it's too short sighted to blame it all on Lambert. We used to have likes of Young and Milner but they left and we got NZogbia and Bent, then they were bombed out and we could get likes of Westwood and Benteke, then Benteke gets injured... Keep taking away the quality and you end up down the wrong end of the table REGARDLESS of manager. These players last year arguably over performed (see Lowton POTS to today, Weimann and even Benteke) and think we nearly all agree that Luna was/is better than Bennett and Betrand better than both of them. Lambert is responsible for that too. I really am not Pro-Lambert or looking for positives but I genuinely can not see how any other manager would have done much better. Lerner's famous statement even highlights these constraints. This squad has been stripped from top to bottom; our first team the other day with Guzan, Baker, Clark, Delph, Albrighton and Gabby were all here with MON when we were 6th but not playing because we had better players. We have now sold these players and not replaced them so worse players are now in the first XI. The players do seem to put in effort, they do seem to care they're simply just not good enough. Lambert is at fault to some degree, he has made mistakes, but not enough for me to not see WHY he's made those mistakes - lack of investment. I think few would argue that another manager could get THIS bunch playing better so it's about buying better quality and another seven £2m buys aren't going to do that in the best league in the world. It really is as simple as that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted April 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2014 One more point. According to transferlegue.com the players we have bought for under £3m in the last TEN years (before Lambert and under £3m as that seems to be the total he's given for most purchases) are as follows; Enda Stevens, Habib Beye, Brad Friedel, Wayne Routledge, Shaun Maloney, Kevin Phillips, Djemba-Djemba, Gavin McCann and Thomas Sorenson. There are a few undisclosed that might have featured but not sure. I think that almost makes its own point. Hardly a strong first XI that'd make! Throw in a few youth academy players with that too and I think it's easy to see why we are a team fighting relegation yearly. Note the signing of players such as Knight, Harewood, Shorey and Makoun all cost more than our current lot. Even respected 'average' players cost in region of £5-7m years ago - see Reo-Coker, Dunne, Collins even Petrov. We don't even take mid range players anymore. And we pay them less too. Sorry, for me Lambert is the smallest part of the problem and seeing what he did at Norwich and what he has sometimes done with Villa with the resources available I think it'd be fine if he was given another season with investment. He's made mistakes, every manager does but the hand he's been dealt can not be overlooked however bad the results are. Without resources in your work place you'd do a sh*t job too but would it be your fault? He can hardly moan in public, he can hardly lambast his players and he's got to put spin on everything but the deck is so stacked against him I genuinely don't see anyone who would have done much better. It's not acceptable but I see at least 90% of the blame being Lerner's. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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