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At what point will they do away with refs altogether i wonder. Presumably you wont need linesman soon.

Thats the one. Also remember a young lad David Hughes? Maybe played one game centre half. Think that was his name. Also Riccy Scimeca of course.

I dont think we did. Maybe Mcgrath left the season before Southgate and Ehiogu. Southgate and Ehiogu definately played with Carl Tiler though, and Colin Calderwood. Good times.

Moan moan moan. First you lot moan about the performance, and now the pitch. You may aswell just go and support someone else. But i warn you, the grass isnt always greener.

I think thats its pathetic that a club like this shrugs its shoulders at whats happened today.

We didnt win the cup in 2015, but the West Brom quarter and Liverpool semi are still the only positive Villa memories i have of the last five years. Agree with you on the momentum thing entirely. We'll see.

Given that the only positive memories i hold of Villa over the last 5 years have come in the FA Cup, i hold this as a dissapointment. I dont see that theres much correlation between being s*** in cups and great in leagues.

He doesnt sound great in that interview does he?

When Mane scored 12 goals in 37 seconds we became a laughing stock.

But Newcastle didnt draw many games. Drawing is much, much closer to losing than it is to winning. We are the draw specialists. You lose 9 and win 37. You have 111 points and you romp the league. You draw every game, and you finish on 46 points, and you probably get relegated. But hey, youve lost none in 46!

Exceptional that.

The White Chicks angle of this does confuse me. A huge $100m grossing movie that is on our TVs seemingly every other week, where two black actors portray spoilt white girls. As someone who isn't privy to the history of the "blacking up" problems, its difficult to understand why it was so unacceptable for the darts guy and Griezmann to do what they did. If it was the law/rules that you can't portray yourself as a black person then I wouldn't have too much of an issue with it, but it doesn't appear that too many people of the younger generation are aware of this being such a major issue.

We really need to start beating clubs of a similar size/threat away from home. The likes of Wolves, Cardiff, Derby, Leeds, Sheff W, Norwich, Bristol C (at a stretch) etc. Second year in the Championship and we still dont look like getting anything at any of these sort of teams. We didnt get much if anything at Necastle, Brighton and Huddersfield either did we? I think we will beat Sheff U, but then we do tend to beat average teams at home.

Why, what happens if we don't win?

Problem is, Wolves and Cardiff beat us. And prob would again.

I think we want a draw between any combination of the top ten when they play eachother.

With the calibre of club promoted to the Premier League in recent years it really wouldnt surprise me if Bristol City or Sheff U went up automatically. If youd have told me ten years ago that the likes of Huddersfield, Brighton, Bournemouth etc would be in the Premier League Id never have believed you.

Inbreads

Id say that last nights result was OK in isolation but we really need to draw fewer games if automatic promotion is to be a possibility. We're still drawing a third of our games, the same as last season. Last year the top 3 or 4 were drawing once every six games, this season the top few are drawing one every ten! I dont know whether its telling us that we are not adventurous enough, or simply not good enough. But also that we're generally good enough not to lose.

Yes, he only really remembers a few colours as his sight wasnt great from birth.

Just caught sight of this (excuse the pun) and thought I’d give my take on it, given I have some personal experience. My dad’s blind, and has been blind since he was six, and so clearly has been without his sight for my whole life too. We had season tickets at Villa as a family for about 10 years while I was growing up, and go down whenever we can, although I now have a very young family myself so it’s fairly infrequent nowadays. My dad probably isn’t your typical blind person though (and really not generalising here) in that he is quite successful, has a well-paid job (with 5-10 sighted people working for him), wife, family, mortgage, etc. Literally the only difference between him, you and I is that his eyes don’t work. Growing up, he would be bringing the bulk of the income into the family home and so when we went to matches it would be him that’s taking us in a cost sense, rather than my mum, who was physically taking him and us (by holding hands or having his hand on her shoulder in crowds). He would also know the trains and bus routes that we would need to catch, so again he’s leading us while we lead him if you’re with me. I think it’s important that I include this as it was ultimately a blind guy that facilitated our experiences and love of Villa as a family, of which we’re really grateful. Back to a few of your questions – Does he listen to commentary or something? Yes, he’d listen to the game on the radio, that’s the main way that my dad consumes Aston Villa, and I suppose most things in general. I think years ago there was a specific commentary for the blind Villa following but nowadays you can pretty much always get the game on the radio. A great anecdote from a few years ago when we were sitting down at the front of the Holte that stays with me. Gabby went through on goal at the North Stand end only to be called offside. Everyone around us jumped up remonstrating with the linesman who had raised his flag, “he’s never offside”, “are you blind lino” was shouted around us. A couple of seconds later my dad took his earphone out and leaned over to me saying, “they’re left-back stepped up, Gabby went early, was two yards off”. So while the thousands around us were clueless as to whether the correct call had been made, the blind guy has the facts, slightly ironic I suppose. So does he just go for the atmosphere? I think ultimately he just wants to be as close as he can to Aston Villa when they’re playing football. Arguably, it would be better for you and I to watch Villa on TV with all the available angles, replays, analysis etc, but we still prefer to go to the games don’t we. I’ve chosen to go to Everton in the pouring rain only to stand behind a pillar for 90 mins. I’ve been to other away games and stayed in the concourse for too long after half time having a beer and a song and missed goals, but I was still there. I’ve been over to Germany with England and watched about 40 minutes of the match etc. I suppose we all consume and support in different ways don’t we? From the lower Holte my dad knows that the goal posts are 20 yards away, the North Stand goal posts are 140 yards away, the away fans are 120 yards away, managers 70 yards etc. He loves the atmosphere and joins in with the songs, just as much as sighted people do, but its about being there more than anything else. I’m not going to recommend you go all good Samaritan when you see that blind guy next and help him if he’s struggling, but he could be anyones father, husband, brother etc who's trying to make his way to his seat. Oh, and by the sounds of it, he loves the Villa!

About 5 years ago as a 25 -26 year old, I finally realised that some crisps are aimed at children. Up until then I thought crisps were crisps, it hadn’t really crossed my mind about the names or packaging, and I'm still not completely convinced by it. Now today, the BBC are saying that Kellogs is to cut sugar in their children’s cereals including Rice Krispies., Coco Pops, Multi-grain etc. Am I just eating children’s food every day?

Chaaarrrrggggee!

Squashed completely. Ribinho?

Its garbage outside of the top 6. 7th is Burnley's to throw away.