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I wanted it to mimic the whole rainbow alliance of leavers 'preferences', so I quite specifically said all three. I don't just throw this shit together.

I think we've established that the question was spectacularly poorly framed in that millions of people have millions of opinions on what they think they voted for, or voted against. Theresa May, bless her red white and blue socks, is now trying to stare intensely hard at a leave EU / remain EU binary ballot, with no direct mention of hard single market fruit pickers or soft grey finance jobs or 4,000,000 ex pat criminal pensioners returning from Spain, or world trade nissan tariffs, and work out what it means in the real world. This obviously can't be done, so she's hoping to just ride the storm. A bit like I'm hoping to ride Little Mix and all three of the Beverly Sisters.

it was printed just above 'chuck an extra £350 million a week at the NHS' but one below 'blessed are the Lithuanian fruit pickers' same font as 'sweetheart secret deal for Nissan but no tariffs on Chinese surplus steel dumping because we believe in free trade'

I went for a walk along the coast on the weekend. Well away from car parks and tourist spots. I can't say the experience was massively enhanced by the constant whiney buzz of christmas present drones getting their HD quality pictures of cliffs and pebbles to stick on twitter. Really hope we are in the realm of a fad here. Total noise pollution on the weekend.

Deep dislike and distrust of all things rugby. Even that Olympic shite that’s just 5 Fijians running around looking for weedy kids to punch. When I was in school, the whole porpoise of the school was to find a rugby first fifteen so we could compete in local rugby tournies. Academic results and job prospects were a distant second goal. When my local footy club looked like it was closing, whilst everyone else was rallying around, the local rugby club put in a secret bid to the landlord to take over our ground. Once put in a piece of work to the RU on an ‘at risk’ no job no fee tender agreement, which they then decided they didn’t want to proceed with. A year later somebody else got the job and basically built our design. Yeah. Rugby.

Best bit for me, listening to the match on the radio, was the commentator saying just before half time that when the Villa fans stopped singing, you could hear a pin drop.

oooh, it's a trap! is it c, genetically bone idle? or d, no more or less special than social workers, prison officers, care assistants, zero hours cleaners, or a merchant marine pilot? or e, the gift that keeps on giving? For the record, I've only ever responded on the subject, never instigated it. But here we have the subject of teachers and teachers hours and persecution of teachers being kept alive yet again! I don't suppose you've ever been a teacher?

No. You are presuming it is always 'the others' raising the subject. I can genuinely tell you it isn't. I will bump in to a friend in town, we're both having a five minute skive down to Greggs. I will say 'hi', whereas she feels the need to tell me she hasn't stopped and they have a report to do so she'll be working late so she's getting a sandwich she can eat whilst she works. Every. Time. Lots of people work hard. My mate that is a dry liner works hard. He has never told me about how he sometimes works through the night. Which he does. He talks to me about football.

To be fair, it was Neil that raised the subject of the english being very uniquely hard working and productive. Looking back now, I think I just missed the joke. Thinking back to 2010 ish, our office gave people an option. There was less work, costs had to be cut so would we take redundancies, or a wage cut across the board? It was decided to keep staff and cut wages. That doesn't help 'productivity' but I'm sure it helped the 'economy'. So it's all a bit notional.

I have the complete spectrum of teachy types in my little social circle. Teaching assistants, teachers, one deputy head and one head. All I can say is, they are as diverse a group as any. I work 'harder' than some of them, I wouldn't swap with some of them. Not even the deputy head of a junior school on £70k a year. But they do have one thing in common. Whether we are discussing it at the football, in the local pub, at a quiz night, the charity car wash or bumping in to each other over the beach. they do like to emphasise how many hours they are doing. There are two teachers two doors up from my house. Really really nice people, proper teaching, maths in an average comp.. Last day of term and half term, every term and half term they go to work with the car loaded and they are away at 3:05pm for 1 week, 2 weeks, 5 weeks of the holidays. They have mentioned they take a lot of work away with them on each and every of the 12 weeks a year they are away. It is something of a running gag in real life, not just on VT. How do you find out if someone has an ipad or does long hours as a teacher? Oh don't worry, they're gonna tell you anyway.

yeah, that's referencing the 2011 ONS stats the figures were revised and updated during 2014 and 2015 by the ONS we're now below Italy and Spain on number of hours worked and productivity per hour ONS

Be nice to see the link?

I'm just curious as to whether this was just casual trolling or genuine ignorance? How would you imagine the hours worked or productivity per hour in England compares with Italy. Do Italians or English work longer hours? Do Italians or English produce more during each hour? I'm guessing you either have comprehensive personal experience and anecdotes, or you can add links and references. Otherwise it just looks a bit 'I'm not racist but...' Finally, the thing that triggered me? 'very unique'

bit harsh lad

about £45 No, I don't know really, it's a bit of a niche market and I've never ever previously seen one in the original 50 year old box. On e-bay most of the bits n pieces are individually available, but not all of them. That card template can cost ten or twenty on its own, if you can find one, the headshell in this good condition usually costs about twenty, the cartridge is a decent shure model so worth about twenty or thirty. The tiny little counterweights are usually lost, they can be a tenner each, it's the first time I've ever seen a full set, I've never had a few of the bits in this box. Usually, the chrome on the arm is pitted and shabby, this one was shiny. Never seen that box before. If he'd asked for a hundred, I'd have handed it over without hesitation. I reckon, one twenty, one thirty would have been where I was out. I think if I put it for sale at £100 on one particular website, it would be sold same day. But she's a keeper! Lots of other companies make much better arms, for much much more money, but this is original kit for the 1968 turntable I'm using - and I currently have a spare turntable with a ropey old arm sagging off it.

Official response from the NHS this morning has been to deny any crisis or anything unusual. Which is odd. As I've got two friends that volunteer for the Red Cross that have been asked (for the first time ever in 20 years) if they can help out the NHS this weekend and bring along a red cross vehicle. Clearly they are being scammed by someone that wants them out of the area for some reason.

Spotted this box in a cabinet of bits n bobs in a shop. Asked the guy about it and he said he thought it was just an empty box, picked it up and announced 'ooh no, there is something in it'. Opened it up and voila! Shiny things. The headshell even has a cartridge in it. I asked him how much he wanted and he didn't know, hadn't priced it. He said £50? In the seconds of gap whilst I was thinking, he added that he was open to offers! So I laughed and said £40. Walked away with it for the £40. I say walked, more of a light jog...

You and me, us, humans, sentient beans.

I hope he was just a gun nut gone rogue, or it's a mental health thing, or gangs, a mistake, a toddler, a dodgy safety catch, or drugs related or a grudge with authority. Because then they can have the funerals and carry on as they are. If he says he did it for the muslim bruvvas, shit gonna hit some fans.

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So, to summarise, you're something of an expert. From europe.

Sweet thing is, if you end up giving your mate a blowie whilst watching your missus, that's not gay.

played on radio 4 earlier, stuck for a good 2 or 3 hours now