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Just read that. Basically teams in Europe will all just bin off the league cup. Not long before it's scrapped now.

I've crossed paths with quite a few top folks at design agencies including Interbrand (ones who did the Juve logo), Pentagram , WeLaunch. They are all pretty plugged in. When a design bombs most times it has to do with a very limiting brief or interference from the client's CEO or Marketing Director - who feel "they know better".

@Teale's 'tache yup - that's the one thanks for reposting! That's a fantastic design, best concept I've seen, and I've been trawling the net! If only Mr Heck.... @Jas10 - no not my account, no twitter for me, as I said in my first post or second - some original designs, but many of my ideas were based on or tweaks of others, I'm not claiming they are all my own, some I've tweaked the geometry, or the colours, or like the one you posted, changed the shield shape and stuck with a winning formula (no star though!) I accidentally got very close when using the Heck shape to do the gold lions ones, then compared it to the colour palette I'd choose - so apologies to primetimeperry, I'm not meaning to take credit for your design - but there's only so many ways to do a Villa shield.

Get rid of the star or put it somewhere sensible and that crest is decent and would please most people. How anyone ever thought the star should be in that place I'll never know.

Why is Big Narstie, a man who's massively overweight and owns a fried chicken shop, advertising Slim Fast protein shakes?

The club have reported it as 42,789. It's still in the programme as that and was discussed as a side conversation at one of the FAB meetings as I wondered about it being 1 more than the previous highest. I think the media have a punt at it - we're so secretive with our attendances that they're forced to either leave them off their official reports or report what they can. Our own reporting is terrible - we had the Ajax attendance down as just over 30,000 for a couple of weeks after the game. That said, the Premier league website has it at 41,421 andI have a feeling that Mr Heck just wanted the highest 21st century attendance under his belt. I think to some extent the final figure has an element of choice for the club and I think most of our fluctuation is in hospitality seating. At that meeting, it was suggested that each chairman or CEO tends to have a figure in mind that they consider to be a full house and will report at that number. It's a pity it's become so muddy, the club has for as long as I can remember announced the attendance during the game, but we seem to be in a position where that's no longer acceptable.

I don't recognise you any more.

The more I see of him, the more I love him. He lives for winning, and he clearly loves the club. I think we're very very lucky to have such a great manager and I hope he becomes a legend at VP over the next few years

To be fair that is one of the best I’ve seen of this new load of badges. The round one that we currently have is the best of them all though in my opinion.

You should give your posh tickets to @Stevo985 and you should sit in R1

The Office (UK) is my number 1. Lots of excellent ones though - Peep Show, Detectorists, Phoenix Nights, I'm Alan Partridge, Only Fools, Fawlty Towers. Plus one of my faves and hugely underrated... Saxondale.

Of course

Well you did only have a few days to get your ticket, it's not like you were given 45 mins and a shit app... don't forget to hide ya lanyard though, I'll still boooooooo ya

And Emi

Interesting I had a hazelnut Aero. 9/10. WB.

Steptoe and son. Galton and Simpson at their finest. Although Hancock runs them close.

Hang on… is that your Twitter account? Many of the same designs

Get this man on the pitch before the scouse kick off

@Ingers is this the one you mean?

We really need to beat Chelsea Arsenal are no certs to beat Spurs. It's a derby and anything can happen, that, and Spurs home form v Arsenal is pretty good the last 20 home matches in all competitions v Arsenal it's been W 11 D 4 L 5 that dates back to 2007

BOOOOOOOOOOO

Actually think this is the best lion (best with dark detailing such as dark claret or even black rather than simply a darker shade of gold/yellow) and wonder how it scales down and compares: This guy has created so many good designs: Much better, good contrast:

41,421 was reported by all the media outlets for that game. I think there are two things, unrelated also to take into account - the number of seats in the ground is the 42,765 (or whatever), but some are not used because they have almost no view of the pitch (Witton lane corner of the lower Holte) or are cordoned off for segregation. The other thing is there are two sets of attendances - the "announced" attendance, though as you say we seem to have stopped announcing them, and the actual attendance which has to be reported to the Premier League (or FA or EFL for cup games). Announced figures are normally tickets sold so include season tickets and match day tickets which are not taken up on the day, because people can't make it or whatever.