dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year I dunno. I'm not sure O'Neill will be intereted in making wholesale changes. I think we might see 7/8 players out with 5/6 max coming back in. I doubt two of those will be central defenders, but you never know...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted April 23, 2007 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year I dunno. I'm not sure O'Neill will be intereted in making wholesale changes. I think we might see 7/8 players out with 5/6 max coming back in. I doubt two of those will be central defenders, but you never know...... I agree with the thought that there will not be either a completely new partnership and also that there will not be wholesale change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villathriller77 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Can't see a huge overhaul of the squad to be honest. The basis is there for a good team. 3-4 quality additions with the 'dead wood' going would be fine. See Joey Barton has had a pop again at the Man City boss and players, clearly not happy and would think a new challenge would be just the ticket for him. He's a bell end but a fine player. Would improve us no end and is the sort of player MON would relish working with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year If Laursen can stay fit, we won't be able to get anyone better. I don't see the point in trying to replace him as first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromsgrove_avfc Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year If Laursen can stay fit, we won't be able to get anyone better. I don't see the point in trying to replace him as first choice. Whilst I agree thats a big IF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzy Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 we need a whole new defence, a new RB, i dont rate bardsley at all, hes a liability, we need to show delaney and laursen the door, yes, both solid players, but never fit, we will never get a ful season out of them, so at least 2 new CBs, and ship samuel out, and look for a new LB! i still stick by luke young if charlton go down for RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 23, 2007 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2007 we need a whole new defence, a new RB, i dont rate bardsley at all, hes a liability, we need to show delaney and laursen the door, yes, both solid players, but never fit, we will never get a ful season out of them, so at least 2 new CBs, and ship samuel out, and look for a new LB! i still stick by luke young if charlton go down for RB I can't agree with Laursen. He has looked superb I think so deserves another crack - could save us a bomb if stays fit.....If not replace him next year, we have cover. It's a gamble worth taking I think. Agreed, Bardsley is pants. If he was any good he would still be at Man U. he was and is just a stop gap till we bring in some proper quality in the summer IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzy Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 with bardsley though, weve been linked with a £1.5m bid for him? he just isnt good enough, because as you say, he would still be at manure if he was also, as for laursen, dont get me wrong, i think hes the best defender we have, when hes match fit, but thats the problem, he never is, he will always ben carrying an unjury and we will never get a string of games out of him, we might as well cut our losses, let him go and concentrate on younger, stronger defenders that will last us a few seasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 also, as for laursen, dont get me wrong, i think hes the best defender we have, when hes match fit, but thats the problem, he never is, he will always ben carrying an unjury and we will never get a string of games out of him, we might as well cut our losses, let him go and concentrate on younger, stronger defenders that will last us a few seasons! I understand your concerns, but after the surgery his knee has been fine. Steadman is the best in the world at what he does, and with good reason. I am very confident that, barring a huge disaster, Laursen's knee problems are behind him. I remember another commanding centre-back with knee problems who should have been written off shortly after he arrived at Villa Park. If Laursen can be half the player he was (and I think he's already past that line), then he's worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam100 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year i disagree i think we will bring in two defenders, but with one being a fullback ridgewell will go but i can't imagine him getting rid of any of the other centre backs laursen will definatly not go, i really can't see mellberg going, and cahill has too bright a future to leave if we bring two centre backs in then it will only puish cahill further and further until he may have to leave in order to progress to a top level defender. angels gone and samuel, dj dj, hendrie, sutton, ridgewell, and bardsley are leaving then you have davis, mccann, sorensen, hughes possibilities to leave how many can you afford to let go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think there could be an entirely new central defensive partnership next year If Laursen can stay fit, we won't be able to get anyone better. I don't see the point in trying to replace him as first choice. Whilst I agree thats a big IF! I see what you are saying but he has played a fair few games in the last 2 weeks and had no reaction. Its looking good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 This Bardsley thing makes me laugh. He's what, 20? If he was a Villa youngster he'd be backed to the hilt (like ridge, cooke, stefan, etc), but because he's not, he's crap. Some Villa fans make me laugh, they are so blind. But he's not a Villa youngster.......... he's a Man Utd youngster and if we want to keep him we'd have to fork out a couple of million pounds. Unfortunately he's not worth it at the moment - I don't think the club should be spending money on, frankly, shit players in the hope they develop into decent 1st teamers. "Villa youngsters" are players the club have invested time and money into developing which is why the fans have an obvious affinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam100 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 apparently gravesen and strachan aren't getting on too well up in scotland if we miss out on sidwell, i'd like us to go in for him i know he's another celtic player, but he wouldn't cost that much and he's a definate step up to mccann and would help bolster our centre midfield spots, whcih we need to do if davis and mccann leave, and he'd add that steel and energy in the middle of the park which we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCV Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 apparently gravesen and strachan aren't getting on too well up in scotland if we miss out on sidwell, i'd like us to go in for him i know he's another celtic player, but he wouldn't cost that much and he's a definate step up to mccann and would help bolster our centre midfield spots, whcih we need to do if davis and mccann leave, and he'd add that steel and energy in the middle of the park which we need no way! maybe a couple of seasons ago, but not anymore. Yes he's an improvement on Mccan, but only marginally, we need someone better..much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I agree Bardsley isn't up to much, but not on the basis that "if he's not good enough for Man United, he can't be good enough for us". They're the best side in the country and probably the best side in Europe, and Bardsley has a talismanic figure ahead of him in the shape of Gary Neville. If we're going to use that logic, we can say that David Bentley and Steve Sidwell weren't good enough for Arsenal, so they're not good enough for us either. I also can't believe people are talking about getting rid of Laursen. He comes back from his long term injury, does well, picks up a routine injury unrelated to his long term problems, then looks immaculate when he comes back, and people are complaining about him? It strikes me that we have four top notch central defenders in Laursen, Mellberg, Cahill and Ridgewell. I can think of plenty more positions which need strengthening first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocafella Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 If we're going to use that logic, we can say that David Bentley and Steve Sidwell weren't good enough for Arsenal, so they're not good enough for us either. People keep saying that, John Gregory said it as well. Bottom line, the statement is wrong. Reyes - Not good enough for Arsenal Forlan - Not good enough for Man Utd Lauren - Not good enough for Arsenal Parker/Duff/Kezman/Huth/Del Horno/Johnson - Not good enough for Chelsea That is the people on the top of my mind, I am sure there are many more who could have been good enough for Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 yup......nail on head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 apparently we are linked to Muntari.....I think. article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 apparently we are linked to Muntari.....I think. article Think it says we're offering 7 mill, but they want 12. Anyone know Italian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 dodgy online translator: After the Portsmouth now also the aston Villa seems to have aimed the eyes serious on Muntari. According to a newspaper ghanese, Martin OR neall, manager of the Villans, now should want to convince its managers to pay out more of 7 millions of pounds that made available him, that is not sufficient to gain the ghanese, for which Well wonders of it at least 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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