PaulC Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'd still have Lowton over Bacuna at rb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bacuna was the better right-back of the two last season I always thought and seemingly so did the manager. Not sure what's changed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Lambert has a strange relationship with full backs in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Not sure either Bacuna or Lowton are good defenders, but Lowton is definitely the better footballer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bacuna did well at right back because of his energy added to the fact his appalling first touch (which is genuinely one of the worst I have ever seen, it's almost comical) wasn't under as much pressure in that position. His free kick taking was brilliant and arguably got us 6 points last season - on that basis I'd have him in the team ahead of Lowton. Still, it doesn't say much for either - Hutton coming back and playing how a PL right-back should for the most part has shown us what we were missing in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1874 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 While Hutton's out I'd play Bacuna at RB and Lowton right midfield. Lowton is a good footballer, creative, good link up player and good crosser but his poor defending always looks likely to give a goal away. Shame Benteke's out as Lowton looks his best supplier of service. Bacuna is a better defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bacuna had his bad games at RB though. He has more pace than Lowton but i wouldn't say he's a better defender. His positional play was dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bacuna did well attacking as a RB last season, but right now Hutton is doing great in that position. I think if he was a RM ahead of Hutton he could be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Before the Stoke home defeat, when the entire team collapsed and never recovered, I thought Bacuna was one of our more consistant performers that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Its certainly strange he hasn't figured much this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) The Mirror ran an article the other week suggesting that Bacuna didn't get along with Roy Keane or something. Could be complete tosh of course but I suppose it's a theory. Edited November 5, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2014 I just don't think he's very good to be honest. He's chipped in with some good goals, but I don't rate him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He is pretty horrendous in most positions. Horrendous touch, awareness, passing, composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He’s a £2-£3million player. Which is about what we paid for him and what he’s worth now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 £800k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2014 Also, everybody is crying out for us to keep the ball and retain possession. Bacuna is not the man for that job. He works hard and can burst forward and chip in with goals. But he is ropey in possession. He isn't the kind of player who will do well at possession football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 To me he's a wide midfielder, but sadly he hasn't been played in that position. Back to basics 4-4-2 with N.Zogbia (or Richardson) and Bacuna on either wing and getting balls into the box for Benteke and Gabby (or Weimann) might be the way forward (at home at least), but the manager doesn't seem to want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Also, everybody is crying out for us to keep the ball and retain possession. Bacuna is not the man for that job. He works hard and can burst forward and chip in with goals. But he is ropey in possession. He isn't the kind of player who will do well at possession football. We are never going to be anything other than a low-possession side under Lambert though so it is a moot point for now. There is no ideal option when it comes to the Bacuna vs. Lowton debate as they both have qualities that the other completely lacks. However for me, I'm fundamentally concerned with whether a defender can actually defend. No amount of footballing ability makes up for the lack of the incapability in this regard. Now Bacuna isn't a particularly strong defender but I still firmly believe he is superior to Lowton in this regard. Importantly this is enhanced due to his raw pace which enables him to recover even when he is caught out. Whereas Lowton has the mobility and reactions of a 35 year old in the Conference. I always use the example but Kyle Walker is an example of a player who's pace has somewhat offset his lack of positional awareness. Not that I'm saying that Bacuna can therefore be as good as Walker but the principle is the same. It's for this reason that I will always trust Bacuna to be less of a liability than Lowton has proved to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 he had two superb games at RB and was then dreadful for the rest he had some good games from wide midfield - but he is quite limited. i'd still like to seem get some game time in midfield as he is fast and can score, but i would rather not see him in defence ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) he had two superb games at RB and was then dreadful for the rest We all see things differently but I profoundly disagree. Before the end of season run, where [to a man] the entire team were abysmal (including the likes of Vlaar), I could count Bacuna's truely bad games on one hand - Fulham away, United at home and Newcastle (I think). Edited November 6, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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