MakemineVanilla Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes, but... that's what it says. Yep. An idiom is used and the BBC report it; I (mistakenly. it would appear - though not uncommonly so) believe the wording to be incorrect and thus presume it either to be a typo or a mistake by the original speaker. The mistake would seem to have been mine thus there isn't, nor was there ever, a typo. Never mind our kid; part of the heritage of us working class types is being stuck with the inherited mangled idioms of the horny-handed sons of toil. 'You've got another 'think' coming' was always the standard usage amongst the workers. Along with 'one fowl swoop' instead of 'one fell swoop', and too many others I don't care to recall. It's all right for them who have spent their cosseted days trolling around university campuses, to put the likes of us right, but if you've spent your life knocking out widgets in the dark satanic mills, creating the wealth which gave the pedants a free education, then these lessons either come late or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure "you've got another think coming" is the correct phrasing. Although up until recently I'd always thought it was 'you've got another thing coming'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure "you've got another think coming" is the correct phrasing. Although up until recently I'd always thought it was 'you've got another thing coming'. Not according to Judas Priest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cmefZ8aeZ8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Never mind our kid; part of the heritage of us working class types is being stuck with the inherited mangled idioms of the horny-handed sons of toil. 'You've got another 'think' coming' was always the standard usage amongst the workers. Along with 'one fowl swoop' instead of 'one fell swoop', and too many others I don't care to recall. It's all right for them who have spent their cosseted days trolling around university campuses, to put the likes of us right, but if you've spent your life knocking out widgets in the dark satanic mills, creating the wealth which gave the pedants a free education, then these lessons either come late or not at all. No. You've lost me with all of that. Apart from the confusion over whether it's think or thing and which one is the standard usage amongst the workers or Cameron and his ilk, I'm very much not to be included amongst those celebrating their mistakes as some sort of badge of class honour. It would seem only a short step from that to the waffle waitress's 'what are you reading for?'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Never mind our kid; part of the heritage of us working class types is being stuck with the inherited mangled idioms of the horny-handed sons of toil. 'You've got another 'think' coming' was always the standard usage amongst the workers. Along with 'one fowl swoop' instead of 'one fell swoop', and too many others I don't care to recall. It's all right for them who have spent their cosseted days trolling around university campuses, to put the likes of us right, but if you've spent your life knocking out widgets in the dark satanic mills, creating the wealth which gave the pedants a free education, then these lessons either come late or not at all. No. You've lost me with all of that. Apart from the confusion over whether it's think or thing and which one is the standard usage amongst the workers or Cameron and his ilk, I'm very much not to be included amongst those celebrating their mistakes as some sort of badge of class honour. It would seem only a short step from that to the waffle waitress's 'what are you reading for?'. So this is you, is it? Well, well, that'll learn me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's think. Cameron's usage, unlike his management of the economy or his husbandry of his children in a pub at lunchtime, was surprisingly correct. Probably repetition without understanding, but, hey... A good tweet I saw on the loathsome Cameron today said he seems like a cross between Captain Mainwaring and an Apprentice candidate. That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 25, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's thing. I will admit that until today I hadn't even realised that people used think; I've never heard it said or read it as think. Having had a bit of a read around, it looks like it started life in the UK as thing and was then corrupted by our colonial cousins in the US and Australia and now either version is accepted. Which is ironic, considering what this thread is about. So, I prefer thing and don't like think, but I do like the idea that it's an interesting example of language changing and cultures coming together, and I hope it upsets Mr Farage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 According to this site (grammarist.com) "The exact origins of another think coming are mysterious, but it appears to be an Americanism, and it does predate another thing coming in the sense expressing disagreement. It goes back at least a century. Here are a few old examples". I'm so used to hearing people say 'thing' that I don't think I'd even notice if people used 'think' in speech anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 its think, people mistakenly use thing, doesnt mean they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 its think, people mistakenly use thing, doesnt mean they are right. Both could exist side by side: Think = If you think that, then you better think again. Thing = If you think that, then you will be surprised at the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Thing, Think, who cares here's a pic of farage as a turtle image hosting 5mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mockingbird_franklin Posted October 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) farage is planning for the unlikely event he makes No.10, His image consultant has been working overtime to present him in a way to reflect his views and the results are in. image host Edited October 25, 2014 by mockingbird_franklin 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Same could be said for Hitler. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. or maybe it demonstrates in pictures how thin a piece of paper you would need to fill the gap between UKIP and the current conservatives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 25, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 25, 2014 It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. or maybe it demonstrates in pictures how thin a piece of paper you would need to fill the gap between UKIP and the current conservatives. Or the current labour party for that matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. or maybe it demonstrates in pictures how thin a piece of paper you would need to fill the gap between UKIP and the current conservatives. Or the current labour party for that matter. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. or maybe it demonstrates in pictures how thin a piece of paper you would need to fill the gap between UKIP and the current conservatives. Or the current labour party for that matter. of course, and the lib dems (though it's hard to see them as a political force anymore) at a practical level, the recent defections only demonstrates how little their must be between the two parties that politicians can so readily switch between them and still reconcile their beliefs and what they stand for within their new party. However I would say the closest parties ideology wise have to be ukip and the tory party Edited October 25, 2014 by mockingbird_franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 25, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 25, 2014 It just shows how iconic Thatcher's hair and blue outfits are, by the fact that anyone can be made to look like her. or maybe it demonstrates in pictures how thin a piece of paper you would need to fill the gap between UKIP and the current conservatives. Or the current labour party for that matter. How so? Since Blair and new Labour, the Labour party has been absolutely run on Thatcherist lines - if anything during Blairs time they were more Thatcherite than the Tories, and they haven't changed a bit. The inability to distinguish between the two main parties and the lack of any option other than the near identical policies espoused by both opens the door to UKIP and the like, people are looking for alternatives and reaching out on simple lines. Someone that voted Labour in the eighties really should be voting for the Green Party today. Someone who voted Tory in the eighties can be quite comfortable voting Labour. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There are plenty of differences in policies and views. I just find this "They're all the same" argument to be pretty weak to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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