GarethRDR Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 He really never should have done that brochure though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Should have got 100 caps and 50 goals for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 89 caps and 40 goals isn't bad considering his injury record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Always liked Owen, even though he played for liverpool. Great goal scorer. Really shame about all the injuries. And that goal against Argentina '98 showed at least to me that he was quite technical gifted. The controlling of the ball and then with ease sending it up in the top corner. If it wasn't for a stupid ref England would've at least gone to the semi finals that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Seems like I'm Michael Owen's defender in chief in this thread, but I think he has been extremely clear on multiple occasions in the past about how important family life is to him. He still lives in the same area now as he grew up in, he bought houses for his entire family in the area and he commuted from there to Newcastle in a helicopter so he wouldnt have to move house when he was on the books of the Geordies. He isnt going to suddenly up sticks and move half way around the world at this point in his life, is he? Can't stand the arrogant slime. Indeed. Which makes every argument you make against the fella sound like it comes from personal bias rather than at least a token attempt to be objective about things. He must be shit because you don't like him. Okay. Do you not think he's a horrific player, well short of Premier League standards right now? Players who won the Ballon d'OR around the same time as him: Zidane, Rivaldo, Figo, Ronaldo, Nedved, Shevchenko. Aged 17-23, seriously good player. Aged 24+, curse of injuries not his fault at all, waste of time as a player though. Horsey Owen fact: He's made an unbelievable (well it would be to most people, probably not to him) amount of money selling bad racehorses to silly footballers who buy them off him because he is also a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 He's the only person in the world who can make Alan Shearer sound like a poet. They're both incredibly dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 He is incredibly dull on TV, but I can't understand why people can't accept his star shone very brightly for a few years and give him credit for that instead of just moaning about their perception of his character, like they know him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 http://www.thefootballramble.com/thedwhof/entrant/michael-owen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If it wasn't for a stupid ref England would've at least gone to the semi finals that year. Are you serious? In the quarters england would of played a very good dutch side with bergkamp, kluivert, van der sar etc. In the semis they would of played a brazil side with ronaldo, rivaldo and co. both on paper and in terms of actual performance england were not even top 10 in what was the last decent high quality world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 He was all pace, when that went he had little to fall back on except for his deadly finishing. Not the worst attribute to 'fall back on' if you're a striker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If it wasn't for a stupid ref England would've at least gone to the semi finals that year. Are you serious? In the quarters england would of played a very good dutch side with bergkamp, kluivert, van der sar etc. In the semis they would of played a brazil side with ronaldo, rivaldo and co. both on paper and in terms of actual performance england were not even top 10 in what was the last decent high quality world cup. Well we dealt with that Dutch side pretty convincingly at the previous Euros in 96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 that was 2 years earlier. the dutch in 98 were a better side backed up by the fact that they got to the semis and took brazil to a penalty shoot out. plus in 96 they had a racial split in the camp and infighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 that was 2 years earlier. the dutch in 98 were a better side backed up by the fact that they got to the semis and took brazil to a penalty shoot out. plus in 96 they had a racial split in the camp and infighting. People expected the Dutch to beat us in 96. We weren't exactly short of quality in 98 with players like Shearer, Owen, Sheringham, Scholes & Beckham. I don't think it's in anyway unrealistic to say we could have reached the semis if the Argentina game had gone our way. Although I'm sure we would have still been knocked out on penalties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 He was all pace, when that went he had little to fall back on except for his deadly finishing. Not the worst attribute to 'fall back on' if you're a strikerNo but it took his edge away, he was still premiership quality, possibly still is. The mind is probably still willing, but the knees are shot, and there ain't nothing he can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) If it wasn't for a stupid ref England would've at least gone to the semi finals that year. Are you serious? In the quarters england would of played a very good dutch side with bergkamp, kluivert, van der sar etc. In the semis they would of played a brazil side with ronaldo, rivaldo and co. both on paper and in terms of actual performance england were not even top 10 in what was the last decent high quality world cup. Ok, at least was a bit ott. But a really good chance. England dominated Argentina before Beckham got sent off and would probably have won that game. And then against Holland I think they had every chance to win that game. But definitely top 10 that cup. Edited March 22, 2013 by Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If it wasn't for a stupid ref England would've at least gone to the semi finals that year. Are you serious? In the quarters england would of played a very good dutch side with bergkamp, kluivert, van der sar etc. In the semis they would of played a brazil side with ronaldo, rivaldo and co. both on paper and in terms of actual performance england were not even top 10 in what was the last decent high quality world cup. England were comfortably in the top 10 in the world in 98, on paper at least. Campbell, Adams, Ince, Beckham, Scholes, Sheringham, Shearer and Owen. An exciting mix of old and young talent there. The defence in particular was potentially outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 England did lose to Romania in that World Cup who were an aging team at that stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 27, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2013 And Spain lost to Switzerland in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 He really never should have done that brochure though. it didnt ruin him but it did ridicule him to many football fans. i think its one of reasons his credibility gets questioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hearing he's been offered a big deal by sky to become a co-commentator . Jeez I hope this is not true. He is the most boring person in the solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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