VillaChris Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Mantis, I've said he's a pragmatic football manager, he's nowhere near as anti football as the likes of Big sam and McLeish. It's a bit like saying Lambert is an exponent of free flowing attacking football on the back of the 6-1 Sunderland game when all the rubbish home matches since point to the opposite... Put together a season review of us this season and WBA in 11/12 and Fulham in 08/09 and you'd see very little difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Saying lambert was a proponent of attacking football before this season would've been spot on though. This is his first truly defensive season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Mantis, I've said he's a pragmatic football manager, he's nowhere near as anti football as the likes of Big sam and McLeish. It's a bit like saying Lambert is an exponent of free flowing attacking football on the back of the 6-1 Sunderland game when all the rubbish home matches since point to the opposite... Put together a season review of us this season and WBA in 11/12 and Fulham in 08/09 and you'd see very little difference. Lambert is a pragmatist, but I fail to see how Hodgson is. His teams always play turgid defensive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) edit Edited February 15, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Apparently Zaha is now in contention for the World Cup squad. Based on what? He's done **** all this season. Hodgson really is a **** clueless fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Apparently Zaha is now in contention for the World Cup squad. Based on what? He's done **** all this season. Hodgson really is a **** clueless fool. He mentioned him but i think Zaha has a lot to do to get in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) to be fair he's said that the 3 are in contention, sterling, johnson and zaha i agree im not sure why zaha is seeing as he's only just started playing and isnt in form but you cant argue with the other 2 but i also think sterling is too young / raw and needs experience at european football, can see an Italian wing back eating him alive, and also maybe this comment from roy means he sees chamberlain and townsend playing in the middle, which i think is good news Edited February 16, 2014 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hodgson at Villa would be disaster in universal proportions. I saw him in charge of Finland where he got nickname Roy "0-0" Hodgson which is very fitting, and everywhere I've seen him since haven't made me change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hodgson at Villa would be disaster in universal proportions. I saw him in charge of Finland where he got nickname Roy "0-0" Hodgson which is very fitting, and everywhere I've seen him since haven't made me change my mind. It's Finland, what was he supposed to do? Most managers would be negative if they had inferior players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hodgson at Villa would be disaster in universal proportions. I saw him in charge of Finland where he got nickname Roy "0-0" Hodgson which is very fitting, and everywhere I've seen him since haven't made me change my mind. It's Finland, what was he supposed to do? Most managers would be negative if they had inferior players. kind of answers the question with what he'd do at villa... and is doing with england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 He was very close to qualifying for Finland for euro 2008 wasn't he? Just missed out by a point in a group with Portugal, Poland and Serbia I think. Hope you're back to enjoying finishing 5th in 6 team groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It was by three points and the goal difference. He played with very negative tactics even against teams who were inferior of us, which he was rightly criticized for in finland. Went to play for 0-0 draw against Armenia and Azerbaijan for **** sake. He probably had our best team with the exception of the qualification to 1998 world cup when we lost the chance to play against Yugoslavia in the playoff by losing to Hungary with the last minute goal. Now with Mixu Paatelainen we play much better football (and it actually looks like football) and we have actually gotten some good results against superior sides, like 1-1 against Spain in away game, we still played counter attacking style but at least we tried to nick it opposed to just sitting back and hoping for 0-0 draw. I have never seen Hodgson's teams play anything else than very boring negative defensive tactics even when they've been against worse sides, don't understand why he doesn't get much more stick for it. Hopefully we get much better luck with the qualification lottery than in before, finns had no chance of getting through with france and spain in the same group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He probably had our best team with the exception of the qualification to 1998 world cup when we lost the chance to play against Yugoslavia in the playoff by losing to Hungary with the last minute goal. if i remember Hungary lost something liek 12-0 on aggregate that time. probably best you missed that playoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think your best team was in the early 2000s when the likes of Hyppia, Litmanen, Jussi were all in their late 20s as opposed to their late 30s as in what Woy had. Forssell also wasn't a crock back then. I remember they gave England a couple of decent games in qualifying for world cup 2002 but were never a threat to qualify in that group. I don't recall Finland coming as close to a major tournament as euro 2008 apart from that France 98 example so I'd say for a very small nation being defensive and nicking the game is the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hodgson has said he might employ a "penalty psychologist" for the world cup. Because that's what we need Why not just focus on winning the game within 120 minutes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 England will be out in the group stage, no need for a 'penalty psychologist' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) To be fair I don't think that's an entirely bad idea. We could probably do with a sports psychologist for our home form as well. Of course, Hodgson is all about negative football so perhaps a great emphasis on winning these ties would be better, but it's not like England not being able to win in normal time is anything new. Edited February 25, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted February 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2014 No matter what help or practice they get, you cannot recreate the scenario, it is purely down to bottle. We should stop wasting time with penalties and just try to win the game in the 120 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 here's hoping it goes the same way as the last manager to hire a specialist to get the squads mentality right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 No matter what help or practice they get, you cannot recreate the scenario, it is purely down to bottle. Odd then that the teams that practice them seem to be the ones who tend to win penalty shoot-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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