The_Rev Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 No, his performances for the England youth teams (every level from U16-U21) and GB teams during the Olympics warrant an international call up. I know he plays for the Blues so we are all supposed to hate him and think that he is shit, but Jack Butland has been very much within the FA's system for four of five years now. Given how everybody was calling for the FA do more in bringing players through after the 2010 World Cup, isnt this what we all wanted? Or are we supposed to forget that because he currently plays for the shitcunts? As for the Chris Woods & Nigel Martin comments? Well, the blindingly obvious answer was that they were being kept out of the team by David Seaman, who is one of the best two or three goalkeepers this country has ever produced and they were active in an era where England played far fewer meaningless friendlies so there were no games like this for them to play in. In years gone by this game vs Italy would have been a B international. But television companies cant sell B internationals so it got "upgraded". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I actually dont mind blues, prefer them to Liverpool, Manure, Arsenal etc.. if i werent a Villa fan I'd be a blues fan. Having said that he hasnt even played for them yet. I don't see personally how the FA can get someone whos never played at a better standard than regular league goalkeepers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 It's because he has worked within the FA system and with FA coaches for a number of years. They obviously believe in him. You speak like he is some bloke they have just randomly pulled in off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I think people should be selected on merit, not who they know thats all. Valid point on Woods and Martyn, didnt have pointless friendlies those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 But if he has proven himself in the many hours of training sessions and the youth and Team GB internationals he has had, where he has been under close scrutiny from the FA then isnt that as good (or better) than just being able to point to a season of first team football that hardly anybody from the FA watched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I haven't said he's shit or anything.. they can continue to do that and watch him for Blues this year (if Fosters moved on yet?) and continue to keep an eye on him and see how he copes before handing out an international debut. He's only 19 afterall. In the meantime give someone who deserves it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I think we are going to have to agree to disagree here. I dont think "time served" is a reason to pick one player over another. He is coming into this game a week or so after being very impressive in the Olympics, it's a low pressure game and it seems perfect for him. I would agree with you entirely if he was an outfield player as the influence opposition players would have on him is far greater, but the goalkeeper is such a specialised position I agree with what the FA are doing. If they have faith in him then go for it, rather that than just throw some other bloke in because he is five years older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 13, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2012 I also think the bluenose issue won't be an issue for too much longer. He will go to a PL side soon I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 See Rev now I dont think he was particularly impressive in the GB team, he was at fault for a goal and his kicking was suspect, remember in one of the games he kicked the ball straight to the opposition but they failed to score from 10 yards out. If the FA think they can cherry pick and train players through their own system better than players who are peforming in a national league system that has been running since the 1800s then best of luck to them.. we will definitely have to agree to disagree on this one. The likes of John Ruddy who peformed brilliantly for many years would love to say to his grandchildren that he played for England once, must be scratching his head now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andykeenan Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Team England: Butland, Walker, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines, A Johnson, Carrick, Lampard, Young, Cleverley, Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Team England: Butland, Walker, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines, A Johnson, Carrick, Lampard, Young, Cleverley, Carroll3rd best team in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Utterly pointless fixture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Iv'e put £50 on england to win, I have faith . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Really hate the way Young throws himself to the ground regardless of contact. Most of the fouls on him have been called right by the ref but he doesn't need to be so dramatic. Tart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted August 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2012 Anyone watching in HD what's with the super imposed advertising hordings???? They bring that in to the premier league I am cancelling Sky it's awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy123 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thankfully they turned the super imposed advertising off after 25mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Another step in taking the piss out of joe public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Its clear that AJ has not played a lot of football in the past year! He needs more game time, at say a Mid table Midlands Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It's the broadcaster rather than sky that have done the superimposing. It was on the ITV feed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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