Zatman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 think if Portugal were to beat Spain or France Ronaldo would probably be a certainty for World Player of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 think if Portugal were to beat Spain or France Ronaldo would probably be a certainty for World Player of the Year In any other year yes, but can you ignore the man who scored 82 goals? Dont wanna turn this into yet another ronaldo v messi debate but I am just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 i think if portugal win it with madrid winning the league and messi winning just the cup then it'll be close, i still prefer messi, i think he's a better player and id still argue that last night summed ronaldo up, 2 flashes of absolute brilliance with the goal and hitting the post alongside around 12 other shots (some of them ridiculous) a couple of stupid free kicks that he smashes nowhere near goal (he's almost as tedious as "beckham territory") at least 2 10 minute periods where things werent going his way and he looked switched off and that classic ronaldo moment of his skipping across the pitch waving his arms swearing because a pass was slightly over hit he's a grade A **** rocket polisher and thats why any day of the week id vote for messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 i think if portugal win it with madrid winning the league and messi winning just the cup then it'll be close, i still prefer messi, i think he's a better player and id still argue that last night summed ronaldo up, 2 flashes of absolute brilliance with the goal and hitting the post alongside around 12 other shots (some of them ridiculous) a couple of stupid free kicks that he smashes nowhere near goal (he's almost as tedious as "beckham territory") at least 2 10 minute periods where things werent going his way and he looked switched off and that classic ronaldo moment of his skipping across the pitch waving his arms swearing because a pass was slightly over hit he's a grade A **** rocket polisher and thats why any day of the week id vote for messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Germany 2-0 Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 There are certain teams where I dont know which is the home or away colour. Greece and Turkey being perfect examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 The only thing the Germans have on Greece is the Economy Birds, food, football, weather, more birds it Ellas all the way!!! Come on my greek soliders!!! Not sure, Greek food is a bit, well greasy, whereas the food in Bavaria is great They also have better beers & as for women, I'm still in love with that German bird who sang 99 Red Balloons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 turkeys away is polands home shirt greece is swapping the colours round from the home shirt, blue with white addidas stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Greece definitely has better looking women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 turkeys away is polands home shirt greece is swapping the colours round from the home shirt, blue with white addidas stripes Well if Greece is swapping colours then that explains my confusion. I think it is not the first time thye have swapped colours. They seem to wear the white just as often as the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 On the subject of Portugal they now deserve to be regarded as one of the top footballing nations of Europe. This century they have made 3 semi finals (2000, 2006 and 2012) as well as 1 final (2004). They have also produced 2 ball'on dor winners as well as many other top players. Before 2000 they rarely qualified for tournaments. I think there are 7 heavyweight nations in Europe - England, Italy & France, Germany & Holland, Spain & Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 think if Portugal were to beat Spain or France Ronaldo would probably be a certainty for World Player of the Year I think so too. Messi flopped at the Copa America last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2012 Greece definitely has better looking women. I can't believe I'm doing this when the attractiveness of women is the subject of the post... ...but I agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I think there are 7 heavyweight nations in Europe - England, Italy & France, Germany & Holland, Spain & Portugal. 1 of them hasnt made a semi final in in 16 years while Turkey have made 2 since then and Czech made a semi and a final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I think there are 7 heavyweight nations in Europe - England, Italy & France, Germany & Holland, Spain & Portugal. 1 of them hasnt made a semi final in in 16 years while Turkey have made 2 since then and Czech made a semi and a final We have underachieved in recent years but still only 4 other European nations have won a World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2012 While you're right Zatman, I'd go back to the 'form is temporary' adage. The Czechs had a golden generation that is now largely gone and Turkey aren't even in these Euro championships. A heavyweight for me is a side with the potential always to do some kind of damage and certainly to qualify for 90% of finals competitions. I agree with the 7 heavyweights listed above, despite isolated examples of achievement elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 then villa and forest are heavyweight clubs in England as in a select few to win European cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I think the Germans just edge it on the football Dem but you sure do have a lot of swimming pools*. (*certainly more than you admit to) And Birds(unless you like hairy women) and i think i enjoy German food more to...well they do have the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 then villa and forest are heavyweight clubs in England as in a select few to win European cup It's not just that though. We are actually still among the top teams now. Turkey haven't even qualified for the last two tournaments. And the Czechs were not in South Africa either. You only to look at the FIFA World rankings where we are consistently ranked in the top 10. Denying that England are a major footballing power is like denying that Liverpool are a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 22, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2012 then villa and forest are heavyweight clubs in England as in a select few to win European cup You didn't read what I wrote. Particularly A heavyweight for me is a side with the potential always to do some kind of damage and certainly to qualify for 90% of finals competitions. Forest haven't 'done damage' or been relevant for a generation and in Premier League terms we haven't been a contender for 20 years. So, no, neither of us are heavyweights based on the definition that I put forward. It's a fairly simple definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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