OnlyOne Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 How have we got McLeish and Sunderland have MON? Depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 It's really shit to be a Villa fan under McLeish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 **** off Mcleish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baalberith Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Smiling and laughing when we're 2-0 down? Ginger rocket polisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony_Tony_Daley Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Peter Grant telling him what to do when he brought on Weimann sums it all up, sadly for the ginger clearing in the woods it was caught on camera making him look more of an inept dickhead. Collins has to be replaced by Clark surely? And Hutton replaced with a traffic cone surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Worst Villa manager I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockafella Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Makes it laughable now when only a couple of seasons ago people were calling for MON head. At least we could give any team in the league a game then and played exciting football. Now it seems like just a matter of time before we're playing championship football, if not next season, then it won't be far off unless we make some big changes sooner rather than later. To save this season we need to get some serious reinforcements in, hopefully survive (I even happily take mid table obscurity at this point just to save any end of season worries), then I hope and pray Lerner has the sense to change the manager (even though he prob won't) or sell up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 18, 2011 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2011 The sooner he goes the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 To save this season we need to get a new manager in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 18, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2011 Delph was bad but Bannan was hardly much better.Both giving the ball away easily. All the players came out at half time looking like they had no idea what was just said to them, talking to each other and looking confused! i reckon both of these things are related to be honest, i saw the conversation between dunne, collins and warnock too. dunne looked to be both pissed off and confused, to say the least. if the players are not REALLY clear in what they have to do then the way they work together is compromised. there was no good movement for the player on the ball as a result of this, so limited options going forward, so we give it away a lot. this is something MON was very good at, making sure that every player understood exactly what they should be doing. give them simple instructions and don't confuse them, the results are his direct and attacking football. the down side as we all saw was the one-dimensional and predictable stuff when we weren't in a situation that suited playing on the break. today we were woefull apart from some stuff fonz and alby and nzogbia did. it was only little flashes though and as a group we looked clueless and gutless, second half most of them looked like they didn't want to be there at all. i've been trying to reserve judgement on AM. it's hard to see what, if anything positive he is doing with this group of players though. you can't even say we're hard to beat or tight at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 To save this season we need to get a new manager in. Agree, get a decent manager In and give him some money in January to turn things around. Unfortunately I don't think Lerner will do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yes RL has messed us up with his tight wallet but at the same time we have a decent squad with good youth and we have experience too. A manager needs to make changes when its needed, look at the back 4 its useless yet we have (IMO) the best center half on our bench in Carlos and one of our better players last season in Clark. Is time is long up and must go. A manager with more of a tactical mind and better manager skills all round will do a decent job with the current lot. Sparky springs to mind and is out of work. GO GET HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 said when mcleish took over that i didnt want him but was happy to give him time given the circumstances he'd been brought in. at this point now though, he's probably got to go, and it's got to be before the window opens. ive never seen a point in bringing in a new man unless he can sign players, so we'd ideally look to get someone in in the next week or so i dont think it'll happen though. a director of football, or decent ceo is desperately needed at the club to give lerner a hand during big decisions. faulkner is a businessman, like lerner, and would know less about football than randy himself. we need a football man in there at a reasonably high level. with mcleish though, it can't go on the way it is. ropey performances are to be expected early on, but the frequency at which we just roll over with no attacking ambition when we play perceived bigger teams is alarming. you don't win football games if you don't score goals, and you don't score goals if you play defensively collins needs to be dropped if the defense is going to do anything. dunne spends more time worrying about covering him for when he inevitably dives in/falls over/loses possession that he can't focus on his own game. so instead of having a focused dunne, we have a disaster of a centre back pairing. dropping collins and bringing in cuellar (assuming he's match fit at this stage) would improve the back line hugely. cuellar at right back may not have been the greatest thing in the world to watch, especially when he had the ball, but by christ the guy can read a game and doesnt have the same tendency to balls up as collins. overall we're quite an attacking team given the personnel we have, so having them playing defensively means that we're not only refusing to play to our strength, but we're doing something we're not very good at. had we gone out and tried to play good attacking football, and had the same results, i dont think mcleish would be seen in the same light. but we're not. we're playing dead as soon as the game starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrums Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Remember this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 where has the Mark Hughes love in come from? Stuff Hughes. Get Moyes in.... Break the bank for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton65ca Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Dear Randy: If you insist on running (rather than ruining) OUR club, then get a football man in to help you with decisions. Paul Faulkner MUST GO immediately. Yes, I said IMMEDIATELY. He has done a piss poor job. Alex McLeish MUST GO as soon as is practically possible. MCLEISH OUT!!!!! that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 where has the Mark Hughes love in come from? Stuff Hughes. Get Moyes in.... Break the bank for him.Hughes looks like Mourinho compared to McLeish. Not only that but he's out of work and a realistic target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If McLeish had any sense or decency he would hold his hands up and resign. Completely out of his depth at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 where has the Mark Hughes love in come from? Stuff Hughes. Get Moyes in.... Break the bank for him. The bank is closed for the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 where has the Mark Hughes love in come from? Stuff Hughes. Get Moyes in.... Break the bank for him. give it a few more weeks and we probably wouldnt need to break the bank for moyes, lots of discontent among everton fans about him lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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