nick76 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I just can't stand McLeish, just have no confidence in him and yes we were unlucky to go down to 10 men but he was useless again and has been from the beginning....only Blackburn was something half decent. Well I gave him a chance like some asked....now I'm more hacked off with him, he's even more useless than I thought and the football is awful. I'm watching the game and thinking of other things, like what I need to do after the match etc etc and I fear for our position for the season but I'm just as fearful of 3 years of this....depressing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanfromluton Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 We could have been 3 up before the pathetic sending off, is that his fault that Dowd and his lino made a pathetic decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Stats show we had 1 shot on target all game and 3 off target. We can be the better team but we never do anything with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 That linesman should never work in football again. Utterly disgraceful decision. But yes McLeish is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Same situation as last season IMO. This is never going to work out and we're going to end up with yet another poor manager like the last two. The thing that annoys me the most is that Randy went from trying to get Martinez/ Benitez, managers who like to have their teams pass the ball to Mcleish. Its clear that Randy is clueless when it comes to these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 The managerial search was a real clueless shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yeah that's all I want now. I accept we aren't going to challenge for anything, I accept we aren't going to spend much money but two things I would like is Effort and a bit of entertainment, which certainly isn't from the current style of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Could be worse, could have had Martinez! Martinez has done well at Wigan considering the funding that he has there. He certainly had the Zog playing - something McLeish can't even get close to! And he does try to play football, as he did with Swansea. It would be at least interesting to see what he could do with a better squad. Martinez >>>> McLeish every time for me. I agree with you. They have lost 7 on the bounce. He is not doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Could be worse, could have had Martinez! Martinez has done well at Wigan considering the funding that he has there. He certainly had the Zog playing - something McLeish can't even get close to! And he does try to play football, as he did with Swansea. It would be at least interesting to see what he could do with a better squad. Martinez >>>> McLeish every time for me. I agree with you. They have lost 7 on the bounce. He is not doing well. They don't have N'Zogbia anymore (who played a big part) in keeping them up aswell.. Survival for a club like Wigan is an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Moyes would've been perfect for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Could be worse, could have had Martinez! Martinez has done well at Wigan considering the funding that he has there. He certainly had the Zog playing - something McLeish can't even get close to! And he does try to play football, as he did with Swansea. It would be at least interesting to see what he could do with a better squad. Martinez >>>> McLeish every time for me. I agree with you. They have lost 7 on the bounce. He is not doing well. They don't have N'Zogbia anymore (who played a big part) in keeping them up aswell.. Survival for a club like Wigan is an achievement. To get a bigger job, you have to do a good job with your club, McLeish shouldn't of got the job here and nor should Martinez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 If it was between McLeish or Martinez I'd still take Martinez tomorrow and no it's not because McLeish was from Birmingham (I couldn't care less)... It'd be another great achievement if Martinez keeps Wigan up again this year (I doubt it though). I agree, someone like Moyes would've been nice instead of the two but that's for another time/thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 23, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted October 23, 2011 To get a bigger job, you have to do a good job with your club, McLeish shouldn't of got the job here and nor should Martinez. My sentiments exactly. I believe the board hamstrung themselves by insisting on "premier league experience" for their manager. Stuff that. Give me a manager that has a track record of success over one that has scraped his way and been involved in 2 relegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Paul Lambert would have been my choice, but he was never going to leave Norwich last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Even if youre on a budget - the one thing you can't skimp on is the managers position. I would rather have had a better manager with less transfer funds. I know that creates an issue that the better managers seek assurances about transfer funds - but Aston Villa should always be considering better managers than Martinez Mclaren Mcleish those managers run the boltons, wigans, etc. that 100% where we have gone rung - not aiming high in the manager stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I just can't stand McLeish, just have no confidence in him and yes we were unlucky to go down to 10 men but he was useless again and has been from the beginning....only Blackburn was something half decent. so the Wigan game didnt happen :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 i reckon we should have taken a punt on gus poyet personally. he looks liek one of the best young amangers in the country. my concern with mcleish is the lack of chances we create. its abysmal. we created more under houllier but were poorer at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Could be worse, could have had Martinez! Martinez has done well at Wigan considering the funding that he has there. He certainly had the Zog playing - something McLeish can't even get close to! And he does try to play football, as he did with Swansea. It would be at least interesting to see what he could do with a better squad. Martinez >>>> McLeish every time for me. I agree with you. They have lost 7 on the bounce. He is not doing well. think Martinez would have been disastrous. He cant line up his defence and would probably have us in a worse position now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Did we work Foster after Herd got sent off? Villa must be the only team who look like they will definitely lose once we have a player sent off. I understood why he brought on Heskey as we lacked a bit of muscle on the pitch. Trouble is, I don't think he should have been in midfield. IMO, West Brom's midfield is the best part of their team. The weakest is their defence. I would have thrown Heskey up top alongside Bent and just got our defenders to do what they do best and hoof it up to Heskey and hope that we could win a few knock-downs and create a chance or two from that. Trying to pass it through them with Heskey in the middle was never going to work IMO. I would also have liked for us to have taken off Warnock for Albrighton and gone 3 at the back with Gabby and Alby playing as wing backs. We were 2-1 down and still we kept a back four on the pitch. Didn't make any sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 So i see United down to ten men and they are a shambles worse than us yesterday. am sure United forums arent going to say Fergie is clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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