sellyoakvilla Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The difference is they have their reserves on 20k whereas we have them on 40/50k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 The difference is they have their reserves on 20k whereas we have them on 40/50k I cant imagine the likes of Bentley, Keane and Kranjcar being on 20k a week. I think somebody needs a new calculator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The difference is they have their reserves on 20k whereas we have them on 40/50k I cant imagine the likes of Bentley, Keane and Kranjcar being on 20k a week. I think somebody needs a new calculator. It's been done plenty of times, the financial records I believe are public, I'm sure in 09, it was like £10-11 million?! Risso is the man you want for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It was interesting yesterday that we played like the Villa of the last 2 or 3 seasons. Pretty direct in our approach, hardly any passing it around at the back, no sideways/backwards passing for the sake of it. Our possession was well down on many games under Houllier but the possession we had been getting was in areas of the field where teams were happy for us to have the ball and piss about with it for a while anyway. We were also very much of the mind at the back that if in doubt **** it out or hoof it forward. Not pretty but can be effective. Centre backs at fullback is very much recent seasons past as was Gabby out wide. Maybe the penny is dropping with Houllier on how he needs to play to get the best out of these players. The next few games will tell. He still as one of the worst first 15 game records of any Villa manager so a win on Wednesday is desperately needed to improve that and more importantly our dire league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It was interesting yesterday that we played like the Villa of the last 2 or 3 seasons. Pretty direct in our approach, hardly any passing it around at the back, no sideways/backwards passing for the sake of it. Our possession was well down on many games under Houllier but the possession we had been getting was in areas of the field where teams were happy for us to have the ball and piss about with it for a while anyway. We were also very much of the mind at the back that if in doubt **** it out or hoof it forward. Not pretty but can be effective. Centre backs at fullback is very much recent seasons past as was Gabby out wide. Maybe the penny is dropping with Houllier on how he needs to play to get the best out of these players. The next few games will tell. He still as one of the worst first 15 game records of any Villa manager so a win on Wednesday is desperately needed to improve that and more importantly our dire league position. well thats interesting, because Lee dixon on MOTD 2 made a specific illustration to say we didn't play like that last season when we lost 7-1 he made reference to how narrow we were as opposed to the width we employed on sunday. Admittedly I'm referiing to a direct comparison with the same game last year, when i think you are referring to generally. I know what you are saying Mark and i tend to agree with the fullbacks they looked more robust, i thought Clark was very encouraging.... when Luke young played last season, albeit just back from a lay off. I thought we passed and moved quite well at times too just a litle bit of poor control broke things down. lets hope we can build on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 First half we played decent stuff and Young in the hole is a very good move. Second half, it was all them, I think had the game been 1-1 the whole second half, possesion stats and so on would of looked a lot different. First half it was anyway. We went back to some solidity at the back which was good with two strong full backs and weren't afraid to go direct to Heskey who won pretty much everything. It was a lot more like last year with just a few small changes and differences and that's how really it needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It was, perhaps, the defining moment of Houllier's season. Far too early to say that. You may as well say the 4-0 at money citeh was the defining moment I stated "perhaps", Richard! :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcmatt123 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 There's a long way to go, but that was a step in the right direction for Houllier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMur Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Hopefully yesterday's performance will give the players some confidence to kick on from here. If they are giving it their all, the manager will get less flak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4rvillan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Even with the possession stats, the BBC as it happens had us down ans 10 shots on target to their 10 shots on target, 5 shots off target to their 6 shots off target. Funny how these stats changed on MOTD. Yet it says to me that we were well in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 We need to and should beat Sunderland no team "should" beat sunderland, theyre a bloody good team I disagree. I think they’re mediocre, especially away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think yesterday, Houllier got lots of tactics spot on. For example: * Knowing that Chelsea would be very narrow and use their full-backs as wing-backs, so our wide men had to stick on their full-backs all the time. Downing on Cole: perfect match-up, and Gabby on Ferreira: easily beaten for pace. * That meant our full-backs could stay on the front 2 wide men - Cuellar on Malouda and Clark on Anelka. Because of this we pretty much nullified both their wing-backs and front 2 wide men, leaving Dunne and Collins to only have to think about Drogba. * It was then a fairly even match-up of Heskey and Young on Mikel, while Petrov and NRC had to pick up Lampard and Ramires. So for me, he showed he knows exactly what he's doing tactically. He's come up against Carlo Ancelotti and held his own. The next test will be what he changes for the next game, because the team against Chelsea won't work as well against Sunderland, and there will be a more specific way to combat them. This won't go down too well, but I honestly think he's the man to take us forward to the next level now. If he can get the team working for him every game AND get them starting to believe in their own ability a bit more then we really can be a dangerous team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Dirk thats a good summary. Also i agree with AVFC-POB the possession would have been more even if it had stay 1-1 for longer its only because we were defending a lead. I thought we passed it around ok too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Sunderland are far from mediocre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNichollsToe Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Sunderland are far from mediocre! Need to score early, or the edginess may get people on the managers back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 True, CNT, I'm just taking umbrage with the fact Sunderland are "an easy three points" - two years ago, yes they were. Now? Solid team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This won't go down too well, but I honestly think he's the man to take us forward to the next level now. If he can get the team working for him every game AND get them starting to believe in their own ability a bit more then we really can be a dangerous team. I totally agree. Also get in some of his own players and I think we do have the right man and this is not based on one result, I think it just needs a mixture of young players and now with the experienced players coming back (now all back apart from Young and Delph) then he will start to find the right mix depending on each game......I hope so because I still believe he is the right man for the job longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNichollsToe Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 True, CNT, I'm just taking umbrage with the fact Sunderland are "an easy three points" - two years ago, yes they were. Now? Solid team. Plus the fact that spud face usually does well against us. Hard game, thats for sure 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Lets hope we get a better atmosphere under the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm pleased that the club have come out and backed GH today via Paul Faulkner. I think it settles things down a bit and we can focus on the football and climbing the table. I still want him to bring in a couple of players this window though. Really looking forward to the Sunderland game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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