mikeyp102 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I see he is public enemy number one again.... Not the worst player on the pitch. Did do some decent things, but also did some poor.. Delph or Kea came on and had no impact whatsoever either If we want to push on then bannan would need to be replaced, but then so would the majority of the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Villalion - I thought he was better than Westwood today. The idea that every one of h If Westwood was worse than Bannan today why did Lambert pull Bannan off? Tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Bannan was decent first half, along with most of the team. Second half they were all useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Mistakes by Bannan are magnified by the fans because nobody likes him, he is being used as a scapegoat all the time. The fans get on his back after one mistake in a game, yet Westwood and others made them too. Bannan was poor, no doubt about it but again when he went off we didn't do anything attacking wise, 2-1 down and we didn't put any pressure to score. Not saying he should still start, but replacing him with Delph or KEA isn't the answer, we would be way too defensive minded with them in and the amount of stupid fouls they give away does my nut in. When we lose Bannan is the scapegoat, even if his play did not lead to any of the goals, as in the case today. When we win he never earns credit even if he is involved in the build up. I don't think Bannan is hated because he is Scottish or because he went drinking ... my view is some fans won't be happy until they have a universal hero like a Gerrard, Bale or Lampard in midfield who can do everything. Bannan is not that type of player and so Bannan is using up the spot where Universal Hero should be*. Westwood only gets the nod over Bannan because he is still on his honeymoon period. If Bannan were to leave, they'll pick on Westwood. Me, I don't think a modern football team needs a Lampard or Gerrard. The game has evolved from that. Would be awesome to have a Bale though. *I notice in the Sylla thread fans are beginning to criticise this specialist DM for "not getting forward enough". they yearn for a hero more than they care for results IMO. Con this is the biggest pile of shit I have ever read. Villalion - I thought he was better than Westwood today. The idea that every one of h If Westwood was worse than Bannan today why did Lambert pull Bannan off? Tactics? Chasing a game and take off the world's best passer and crosser????? Edited March 31, 2013 by VillaLi0n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 31, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2013 I've often thought that some of the stick wee Barry has got this season has been unfair. We seem, as Villa fans, to need a whipping boy every season but today he really was pretty poor. The only positive I saw in him today was that even when he had made a ricket, he still always offered himself for the ball though. Constantly dropped deep to pick up the ball and even though it was clear he was having a 'mare, he still fought to be involved. Still, a pretty horrendous performance for the boy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 31, 2013 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2013 In the long term, we'll need to find someone who can dominate games in midfield, it's our weakest area (which is saying something with our back line) - I don't see Bannan as the weakest link in midfield and I'm very glad to see him in the team ahead of Holman, Dawkins or KEA, but I think a measure of our progress will come when he's on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 In the second half we lost control of the midfield (what control we were able to maintain for periods in the first) and were not able to get forwards enough. The changes didn't bring that control back. In hindsight, perhaps Bannan would have been best redeployed on the left for his crossing with Westwood going off for Delph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Mistakes by Bannan are magnified by the fans because nobody likes him, he is being used as a scapegoat all the time. The fans get on his back after one mistake in a game, yet Westwood and others made them too. Bannan was poor, no doubt about it but again when he went off we didn't do anything attacking wise, 2-1 down and we didn't put any pressure to score. Not saying he should still start, but replacing him with Delph or KEA isn't the answer, we would be way too defensive minded with them in and the amount of stupid fouls they give away does my nut in. Bannan has more assists this season for the opposition than he does for us. One mistake in a game? I made it three before Lambert got fed up with him. He isn't a scapegoat. I am a critic of his, though I said his performances against Reading and QPR was okay, but today it was unforgivable. A better player wouldn't not only **** his own team up with ridiculous mistakes, but actually contribute towards forcing the team forward. A better player than Bannan in the team this season would see us very comfortably in mid-table. It's that simple. He is not good enough. Not by a long way. I said the first mistake he makes, the fans have a go at him and moan a lot more than when other players make mistakes and that is true, you only have to be in the stand to understand this. He might not be good enough, but neither are a lot of the players. Fact is we aren't a mid table club this season, we are a bottom 5 club. The bottom 5 clubs have pretty shit players compared to the teams they come up against. Kyle Walker did the exact same thing with a back pass v Liverpool a few weeks ago. I get a lot more annoyed at the type of fouls Delph gives away and the one in the second half where the Liverpool player was near his own box, going nowhere and under pressure and Nzogbia just kicks him. At least Bannan has half a footballing brain even if the ability isn't there. There are players like Ireland who have the quality to get us out of this yet he is too busy being a sulking bastard collecting his 60k a week and driving around in pink cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Mistakes by Bannan are magnified by the fans because nobody likes him, he is being used as a scapegoat all the time. The fans get on his back after one mistake in a game, yet Westwood and others made them too. Bannan was poor, no doubt about it but again when he went off we didn't do anything attacking wise, 2-1 down and we didn't put any pressure to score. Not saying he should still start, but replacing him with Delph or KEA isn't the answer, we would be way too defensive minded with them in and the amount of stupid fouls they give away does my nut in. Bannan has more assists this season for the opposition than he does for us. One mistake in a game? I made it three before Lambert got fed up with him. He isn't a scapegoat. I am a critic of his, though I said his performances against Reading and QPR was okay, but today it was unforgivable. A better player wouldn't not only **** his own team up with ridiculous mistakes, but actually contribute towards forcing the team forward. A better player than Bannan in the team this season would see us very comfortably in mid-table. It's that simple. He is not good enough. Not by a long way. I said the first mistake he makes, the fans have a go at him and moan a lot more than when other players make mistakes and that is true, you only have to be in the stand to understand this. The fans weren't moaning about him when he first broke into the first team. They moan now because they have consistently been putting up with his rubbish. He is never going to be a PL player and the sooner we get rid the sooner we will be a force in the PL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 One word shit, **** off you little Scottish clearing in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Absolutely atrocious. I have been saying for weeks that Delph was needed to be brought in. Bannan is dogshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 One word shit, **** off you little Scottish clearing in the woods. Whilst Bannan isn't a very good footballer there is no need to be racist. Absolutely atrocious. I have been saying for weeks that Delph was needed to be brought in. Bannan is dogshit. It's hard to bring Delph in when he is suspended. Though he should have started today ahead of Bannan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge-AVFC Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Didn't take long for everyone to start blaming Bannan. A few questions I'll ask.. 1) Did any of Bannan's mistakes lead to goals? 2) Did Delph make much of an impact when he came on? 3) Did Westwood and Sylla give the ball away? I mean my god, you'd think all of Liverpool's goals were Bannan's fault. He played poory today but still looked tidyish on the pitch. Stop solely blaming losses on Bannan, its completely unjustified and getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Football is a team game and I'm not blaming anyone (- remember when Agbonlahor didn't pass to Sylla for an open shot at goal, and skewed his own shot horribly wide and high?). It's worth noting how the neutral perceived the game. Youthful naivety remains at the heart of this team's problems, with the 21-year-old centre-back Nathan Baker the culprit on this occasion, making a reckless tackle on Luis Suárez just before the hour that gave the referee, Lee Mason, no option but to award Liverpool a penalty. We can't blame Baker though, because Clark is just as bad as Bannan if not worse. Also could note this one They had equalised less than two minutes into the second-half when, again, one of the youngsters was at fault. This time it was Ashley Westwood, with the 22-year-old midfielder allowing Jordan Henderson to run past him and place Philippe Coutinho's perfectly weighted through pass over Brad Guzan. Bannan not mentioned at all in the entire article, and why should he be. Against Stoke it wouldn't surprise me if Westwood was dropped and Delph given a chance along side Sylla and Bannan. I like Westwood but you have to keep players on their highest level of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Didn't take long for everyone to start blaming Bannan. A few questions I'll ask.. 1) Did any of Bannan's mistakes lead to goals? 2) Did Delph make much of an impact when he came on? 3) Did Westwood and Sylla give the ball away? I mean my god, you'd think all of Liverpool's goals were Bannan's fault. He played poory today but still looked tidyish on the pitch. Stop solely blaming losses on Bannan, its completely unjustified and getting boring. How many mistakes lead to goalscoring opportunities for the opposition? Just because they weren't clinical doesn't make the mistake any less serious. Delph made less of an impact than Bannan when he came on. Liverpool were gutted to lose some of their creativity. Do Westwood and Sylla play further up the pitch where a 10 yard pass to an attacker in no space is a lot harder than a 10 yard pass to a defender in oozes of space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The only thing Bannan was ever any good at is set pieces and he's not even good at those anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Football is a team game and I'm not blaming anyone (- remember when Agbonlahor didn't pass to Sylla for an open shot at goal, and skewed his own shot horribly wide and high?). If you aren't blaming anyone why are you mentioning the Agbonlahor shot / pass? It's worth noting how the neutral perceived the game. Youthful naivety remains at the heart of this team's problems, with the 21-year-old centre-back Nathan Baker the culprit on this occasion, making a reckless tackle on Luis Suárez just before the hour that gave the referee, Lee Mason, no option but to award Liverpool a penalty. This argument is so weak I can't believe that someone who can speak English is actually trying to use it to justify why their son isn't a bad football player. Do you realise that all penalities, whether saved or scored, will be mentioned in every match report? That's hardly surprising. If one of Bannan's cock-ups had lead to a goal it would be in this report... just because Liverpool weren't clinical doesn't mean all of a sudden Bannan's mistakes aren't serious. Why would you take 5 lines of text in a report as evidence of no cock-ups over 42,000 people in a stadium sighing when Bannan losses the ball again? It's ridiculous. Against Stoke it wouldn't surprise me if Westwood was dropped and Delph given a chance along side Sylla and Bannan. I like Westwood but you have to keep players on their highest level of performance. Lambert took Bannan off for Delph for a reason. Bannan was awful and the weakest link in midfield. If anyone is to be dropped for the next game it will be Bannan. He played himself out of the team today he was just that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Managers often don't sub the worst performing player in order to not damage confidence. Against Stoke a more combative midfielder like Delph with Sylla would be a certainty for me. You still need the quality delivery though and Bannan or Westwood could provide that. It probably doesn't matter who you played against Stoke, so I'd go with the more aggressive offensive option, Bannan. Bannan's long balls and crosses were decent today. Westwood missed 4 out of 5 long balls, Bannan made 3 out of 5 of his. Bannan's free kicks and crosses were mostly whipped in, though only one of them connected with a Villa head first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Absolute trash today again why does lambo stick with this drunk loser? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge-AVFC Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Didn't take long for everyone to start blaming Bannan. A few questions I'll ask.. 1) Did any of Bannan's mistakes lead to goals? 2) Did Delph make much of an impact when he came on? 3) Did Westwood and Sylla give the ball away? I mean my god, you'd think all of Liverpool's goals were Bannan's fault. He played poory today but still looked tidyish on the pitch. Stop solely blaming losses on Bannan, its completely unjustified and getting boring. How many mistakes lead to goalscoring opportunities for the opposition? Just because they weren't clinical doesn't make the mistake any less serious. Delph made less of an impact than Bannan when he came on. Liverpool were gutted to lose some of their creativity. Do Westwood and Sylla play further up the pitch where a 10 yard pass to an attacker in no space is a lot harder than a 10 yard pass to a defender in oozes of space? But Bannan has rarely given the ball away which should've led to goals, from the game i've seen, which has been all of them except Everton away and Stoke at home, Bannan has given the ball away 4 times which have led to clear cut chances, throughout the season. Delph was very poor imo, and actually played worse than Bannan did, he made no impact except conceding needless fouls and giving the ball away. At least Bannan wastidyish, I remember a lovely touch which took him past Henderson before a good through ball into Weimann. Westwood sits slightly deeper than Bannan and Sylla are level. If anything Westwood should have better passing stats than Bannan, but yet he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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