JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said: If Jack goes (as now looks certain) then Xia is dead to me. There's no way back... Ever. I don't care what he says or does beyond this point. All he had to do was manage the club properly and the lad would've stayed another season. Sell up now Tony because Villa Park will never forgive you for selling it's favourite son, simply to bail out your greed and stupidity. I get you, because one of the only silver linings I was perhaps looking forward to. Was being forced to take another direction with a young team, and building it around Jack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Cjay said: Read on twitter that before all this kicked off Villa valued Grealish at £40mil? Living in cloud cuckoo land, 10-15m tops imo, potential is there but less proven then the lad at Norwich who they want £20mil for. £10 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, paul1984 said: So you have proof? If so share it with the rest of us. Er...it is pretty much out there. The failure to pay tax, the suspension of the ceo, the early cash in on transfer payments. Keep that head in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted June 6, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, paul1984 said: Certainly more than the lad from Norwich. 2 minutes ago, paul1984 said: Certainly more than the lad from Norwich. All about opinions mate fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: Er...it is pretty much out there. The failure to pay tax, the suspension of the ceo, the early cash in on transfer payments. Keep that head in the sand. So conjecture. The early cash in on future transfer payments can be put down to complying with FFP. The failure to pay the tax last week is unknown. The suspension of the CEO is unknown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, paul1984 said: So conjecture. The early cash in on future transfer payments can be put down to complying with FFP. The failure to pay the tax last week is unknown. The suspension of the CEO is unknown. Yes poor Tony. Its all down to FFP. Why would we cash in early when its FFP for the upcoming season that is the issue? The failure to pay tax has nothing to do with ffp. And ceo's are suspended all the time aren't they? Common practice. Like i said, you ignore it all if you need to defend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, paul1984 said: So you have proof? If so share it with the rest of us. Proof of what ? Why do you think there have been all those headlines, the suspension of Wyness, and notice of an HMRC winding up order ? - do you honestly think none of that is true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, hippo said: Proof of what ? Why do you think there have been all those headlines, the suspension of Wyness, and notice of an HMRC winding up order ? - do you honestly think none of that is true ? No, all of them are true but we don't know the story or why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, paul1984 said: So conjecture. The early cash in on future transfer payments can be put down to complying with FFP. The failure to pay the tax last week is unknown. The suspension of the CEO is unknown. ??? - it isn't unknown - its been on the club website !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Yes poor Tony. Its all down to FFP. Why would we cash in early when its FFP for the upcoming season that is the issue? The failure to pay tax has nothing to do with ffp. And ceo's are suspended all the time aren't they? Common practice. Like i said, you ignore it all if you need to defend him. I didnt say it was all down to FFP, I simply stated a fact that the owner cant just throw cash at the club like they could 10 years ago. Cashing in early could have made us compliant this year for all we know. I didnt say the last two were to do with FFP but we also dont know why these have cropped up. I'm not his media spokesperson I am worried too, but there is no point speculating and presenting it as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, paul1984 said: No, all of them are true but we don't know the story or why. Well its not just down to ffp is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, paul1984 said: No, all of them are true but we don't know the story or why. All right then - HMRC issued notice of a winding up order - Why ? Because we hadn't paid the tax We are struggling with cash flow - Why - because the owner can not or will not cover a £6m monthly shortfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, paul1984 said: I didnt say it was all down to FFP, I simply stated a fact that the owner cant just throw cash at the club like they could 10 years ago. Cashing in early could have made us compliant this year for all we know. I didnt say the last two were to do with FFP but we also dont know why these have cropped up. I'm not his media spokesperson I am worried too, but there is no point speculating and presenting it as fact. You claimed criticism over selling jack is unfair because of ffp. Is that not speculating and presenting it as fact? Edited June 6, 2018 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: You claimed criticism over selling jack is unfair because of ffp. Is that no speculating and presenting it as fact? No its a fact what our three year loss is and what the rules are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: All right then - HMRC issued notice of a winding up order - Why ? Because we hadn't paid the tax We are struggling with cash flow - Why - because the owner can not or will not cover a £6m monthly shortfall might want to check your facts we arent losing 72m a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Cjay said: Read on twitter that before all this kicked off Villa valued Grealish at £40mil? Living in cloud cuckoo land, 10-15m tops imo, potential is there but less proven then the lad at Norwich who they want £20mil for. Wes Hoolahan is a good player, but £20m a bit much, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, paul1984 said: No its a fact what our three year loss is and what the rules are. Oh so only your facts count then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, paul1984 said: might want to check your facts we arent losing 72m a year Fact or conjecture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: Oh so only your facts count then. The accounts and the championships FFP rules aren't MY facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, hippo said: Fact or conjecture ? Fact you can look in the accounts yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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