Bollitics: The General Election 2010 Exit Poll

[wiganvillain]

Whichever, I just don't want Gordo staying in No. 10 for the next 4/5 months pretending to be all statesmanlike

[thetrees]

Sorry but Lib / Lab doesn't work, they still wouldn't have a mjority and thus that ARSE Salmond and his Plaid compatriot would also need "sweetening".

I don't like Cameron but Lib / Con with the Libs stopping or at least slowing the worst excesses of Cameron is preferrable.

Personally I don't like that either, I'd force a Conservative minority government.

I guess that you are gambling that the Tories would be too restricted and, in the course of trying to govern with their hands tied behind their back, become unpopular?

A Lib/Lab government are then swept into power with PR pushed through in the life of the parliament, and the Tories on the outside forever.

But then if Labour are swept into power, the Liberals would be turned out into the cold and PR might well disappear onto the back burner.

I certainly don't want to see the Tories in government at this time for the same reasons.

P.S.[save a post] Ta for the explanation on AV

[drat01]

Just watched that Adam Boulton thing again and he really does look as though he's either drunk or been taking some sort of medication. Apparently there have been a lot of complaints made to Ofcom (again) about him as his actions contravene rules about news people who state political views - not sure that will be upheld, but after his disgraceful actions in the leadership debate and now this that is a bloke who needs a long rest and to brush up his CV I suspect.

[tonyh29]

that the fox murderers

you keep banging on about that but have you ever considered that there are about 100,000 beagles in this country and since government legislation means they are no longer allowed to secure work smoking cigarettes , having perfume dropped in their eyes or get paid to chase foxes they are all relying on benefits in order to support their families

so Vote Tory and get the beagles off benefits and back to work

Wow a Tory trying to be funny and failing miserably. No surprise there then.

wow a labourite being a word removed and succeeding .. no surprise there then

[thetrees]

Just watched that Adam Boulton thing again and he really does look as though he's either drunk or been taking some sort of medication. Apparently there have been a lot of complaints made to Ofcom (again) about him as his actions contravene rules about news people who state political views - not sure that will be upheld, but after his disgraceful actions in the leadership debate and now this that is a bloke who needs a long rest and to brush up his CV I suspect.

Did he actually state a partisan political view in this argument?

He was mad to take on Campbell, and totally irrational in the sense that he wouldn't allow him to speak, but I didn't get a political view from him.

I always understood (from reading the OT section on VT) that Boulton was a Labour man anyway. Clearly he isn't a Campbell man though

[wiganvillain]

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Damn it Trees, was aimed at Tony's post

[CarewsEyebrowDesigner]

On the Boulton front, on his recent performances i'm starting to think Murdoch wants to impliment a pre-conceived narrative on his news channels like he does in America.

Give it a few years before we have Angry Hour with Mr Pickles and phone ins with Ann Widecombe on Sky news.

[markavfc40]

The Libs have just screwed themselves and the Tories will get a majority.

The tories should have pissed the last elction but didn't. They won't see an overall majority for at least another 15 years especially if ,as I hope, they do get in for just long enough now to remind people exactly what they are about.

[thetrees]

To be honest can we get someone to get us out of this mess?

Yes, but they'll need flights back from Afghan.

Just so long as they don't get off at the terminal, because multi-cultural Britain doesn't extend that far.

(Still pissed off at watching a couple of hundred returning soldiers treated like second class citizens last Friday)

[drat01]

Some made the assumption that because his wife was a Labour bod that he had to be also - obviously shows a lot what goes on in their houses :-)

I think the writing was on the wall for him re. impartiality in the leaders debate. Apparently it's rule 5.9 - broke Ofcom's broadcasting code 5.9. States news broadcasters/reporters should not offer personal views - like you I don't think that they will uphold any complaint but can't imagine him being asked to run any big and important interviews for a while. Very strange reactions and still think that he acts like he's had a beer - maybe he will be on Police Camera Action next week?

[Condimentalist]

**** me Boulton made himself look a right idiot. Totallly unprofessional what a **** prick.

Oh dear, he actually makes Alistair Campbell look reasonable! Murdoch lackey.

AV will change next to nothing about the political system, which is, I suppose, why the Tories are going the 'extra mile' to offer it. Makes them seem reasonable but AV would be like getting a huge empty parcel at christmas.

[tonyh29]

some sort of medication

I could have sworn someone was whining a few pages back about medication digs :confused:

[wiganvillain]

(Still pissed off at watching a couple of hundred returning soldiers treated like second class citizens last Friday)

Tell us more Trees

[drat01]

some sort of medication

I could have sworn someone was whining a few pages back about medication digs :confused:

No - totally different thing and again Tony you know it.

Comment on Twitter - Boulton apparently tired of people telling him what to think. Are you listening Rupert?

[omariqy]

Has someone posted that link to Kay Burleys interview with the protestor?

[tonyh29]

should not offer personal views

what personal view did Boulton offer during the debates ?

[thetrees]

wow a labourite being a word removed and succeeding .. no surprise there then

Now, now Tony.

You know that most of the regular Labourites (and regular non-Labourite/non-Toryite/Don't know what they really are-ite) come up with interesting and informed discussion, and do actually read and comment on opposing views.

Don't tar them all with the same, in this case Basil, Brush :winkold:

[Malachite]

I really do think we are entering a most extraordinary time in British political history.

I thought and said the morning after the General Election the only sensible outcome would be, business as usual with Brown and Labour soldiering on until Sept/Oct and then we go into a pre dated General Election again, settle the matter and let the public make the decision as to who.

We are now watching quite unbelievable maneuvering being played out before our very eyes. I could never see how a Lib/Con pact could work, they are naturally miles apart and have always been so in terms of political ideology the natural party of idea and belief has to be Labour as a partner in coalition, both progressive socialist parties.

So what is Clegg doing, because in my mind he's walking a very fine line, almost trading one of the other, this could get dangerous and Clegg could end up looking like a right nana, but i just get the impression this guy knows exactly what he's doing and i almost get the feeling that something here is preordained, all of a sudden, Brown resigns at the very time Clegg announces " I want to talk to Labour" implying that the negotiating with the Tories isn't going as well as to be expected, i say that only because of the timing in terms of the Brown resignation.

What am i getting at...................Could it be possible that as early as Friday morning when Brown seemed to very politely step to one side (which surprised me) without any fight to allow Clegg speak to Cameron, that in fact Brown and Clegg being political soul mates had already talked, already anticipated, made the decision that Cameron could be used as a Patsy to divert attention from the real agenda being a LIB/LAB pact, and that the passage of time would deflect any criticism regarding the fact that the Tories won the most seats.

Could this potential pact between Brown and Clegg have been agreed long before the General Election and poor old Cameron has been nothing more than a punch bag. Lets not doubt for 1 second the capability of Gordon Brown, this is a man that pulled out of the fire a way of saving the UK banks early on a Monday morning 2 hours before the markets opened that was predicted to go into utter meltdown, the idea of injecting billions that stabilized the world banking system within minutes, it has since been said the UK would have been Bankrupt without that.

I really do feel there is a lot more here than meets the eye, it all feels to processed and matey to me and all of a sudden Cameron looks sidelined and weak, not the kind of bloke that you would elect as a leader.

For me there is only one fair way. Another General Election later in the year.

[tonyh29]

Still pissed off at watching a couple of hundred returning soldiers treated like second class citizens last Friday)

would that be our brave lads that all 3 leaders sing the praises of every time a camera is pointed at them ..

Politicians in no shame shock ...

[Awol]

some sort of medication

I could have sworn someone was whining a few pages back about medication digs :confused:

Ian's was joke, yours is quite possibly grounded in reality! You shouldn't make fun of the mentally ill Tony and it makes no difference that this particular window licker is actually the Prime Minister.