Villan_of_oz Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, KentVillan said: That declaration To be fair without the declaration it probably peters out to a draw, but yeah it could be the reason you lose the test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 Broad no ball is the main reason. We'd have won at a canter but for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Oh Stokes you've f**ked this up massively since the last wicket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 Very dull though isn't it Boring cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) He stopped doing what worked. We had a tight field that was working. He left it far too late to get the new ball in. By pushing the field back it's just played into Australia's hands. It's not a pitch to get bounce and high shots yet he suddenly set the field for Australia to slog it. He's massively shafted us here with this decision. Edited June 20, 2023 by stewiek2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 i think we’re done here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 We need a wicket NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 The reason the declaration was a mistake imo wasn’t just that it was so early in the test, but that the pitch / ball / conditions were looking very docile and we should have just cashed in. The story of the test has been little spells where the bowlers look unplayable, and then lots of spells where any old donkey can stick on 30-odd runs. I don’t think we took advantage of those at the right moments, partly through decisions, mostly through luck of the draw … but the declaration was a very avoidable mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Yep, looks we’re done. It’s been a great test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: The reason the declaration was a mistake imo wasn’t just that it was so early in the test, but that the pitch / ball / conditions were looking very docile and we should have just cashed in. The story of the test has been little spells where the bowlers look unplayable, and then lots of spells where any old donkey can stick on 30-odd runs. I don’t think we took advantage of those at the right moments, partly through decisions, mostly through luck of the draw … but the declaration was a very avoidable mistake Everything has panned out pretty perfectly to be honest. Australia needed 54 with 9 and 10 batting. It's this bit that's gone wrong (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretman Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Fine margins, Bairstow could have had another 4 catches and a stumping. This is still there to be won. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Everything has panned out pretty perfectly to be honest. Australia needed 54 with 9 and 10 batting. It's this bit that's gone wrong (so far). Perfectly for a very exciting test with a guaranteed result, for sure. Not sure our tactics were optimal … could have been in a more comfortable position here and still gone for the win. I think… obviously impossible to know, but I reckon it was muddled thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, claretman said: Fine margins, Bairstow could have had another 4 catches and a stumping. This is still there to be won. Fair points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 How many times has Broad beaten the bat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 When you get a finish like this, I don't think anyone should be criticised. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 This looks done. Cracking test but Stokes ballsrd up after drinks with his fielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2023 This test definitely shows how evenly matched the sides are tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 The decision to order fast, flat pitches for the summer when the bowlers you have to take advantage of that are all injury prone wasnt the greatest decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Really highlights why the ashes should have stayed on free to air TV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2023 You have to question the bowlers. 5th day pitch that's had all sorts going on wet and dry. New ball against the tail end. Haven't really looked like getting the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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