Davkaus Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 My M8 is rooted and ROM'd. Beautiful phone. The camera software is awesome, i'm really enjoying playing around with all the effects. Strongly recommend. The only thing I wish it had is the fingerprint scanner as I do think thats a good feature. But other than that, it's **** awesome! Voided your warranty already then? Was the original software so bad you needed a custom ROM already? Warranty isn't voided if there's a hardware issue. If there's a software issue with it I'll be able to fix that myself. But yes, the phone was cluttered with "three" apps, and now it's configured to how I want it with no additional bloatware. And to people like trading standards, it's not an unreasonable request of HTC for you to not modify the original (non-modifiable) software. Citation needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And to people like trading standards, it's not an unreasonable request of HTC for you to not modify the original (non-modifiable) software. Citation needed. None available. It's from my own personal experience with other areas where they tend to side with the retailer or manufacturer even in the face of laws saying otherwise. It's like they consider the Sales of Goods act a bit archaic and will just mediate to what they think is reasonable and fair to both parties. I didn't realise everything posted had to be a verifiable fact. I'll try and find some sources for why I think we'll win tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) After reading the comments in this thread about the M8 and the review on techradar I am seriously thinking of getting it instead of the N5. I am due an upgrade on the 30th April and my original plan was to sell my S3 and buy the N5 outright but now I am very tempted to just upgrade to the M8. Is the camera of a similar standard to the S3? That will do me if so. I just got one one today and have had a play with the camera, and honestly, I don't know what the fuss is about. The pictures look fine on the phone's screen, which isn't exactly small. And coming from an s3 myself, I really don't think you'll notice too much of a difference. EDIT: just like to add the rest of the phone is just as good as near every review says. build quality just blows the s3 out the water Edited April 4, 2014 by jjaacckk91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And to people like trading standards, it's not an unreasonable request of HTC for you to not modify the original (non-modifiable) software. Citation needed. None available. It's from my own personal experience with other areas where they tend to side with the retailer or manufacturer even in the face of laws saying otherwise. It's like they consider the Sales of Goods act a bit archaic and will just mediate to what they think is reasonable and fair to both parties. I didn't realise everything posted had to be a verifiable fact. I'll try and find some sources for why I think we'll win tomorrow. Trading Standards can say what the hell they like. I don't think a judge in the smalls claim court will agree with the fact that a software change would cause a hardware failure. Especially when you roll back the software change and the fault is still apparent. It's scare tactics by the handset manufacturers. You might have to fight for your legal rights, but you shouldn't abandon them because of the ridiculous and unenforcable terms and conditions of big business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And to people like trading standards, it's not an unreasonable request of HTC for you to not modify the original (non-modifiable) software. Citation needed. None available. It's from my own personal experience with other areas where they tend to side with the retailer or manufacturer even in the face of laws saying otherwise. It's like they consider the Sales of Goods act a bit archaic and will just mediate to what they think is reasonable and fair to both parties. I didn't realise everything posted had to be a verifiable fact. I'll try and find some sources for why I think we'll win tomorrow. Trading Standards can say what the hell they like. I don't think a judge in the smalls claim court will agree with the fact that a software change would cause a hardware failure. Especially when you roll back the software change and the fault is still apparent. It's scare tactics by the handset manufacturers. You might have to fight for your legal rights, but you shouldn't abandon them because of the ridiculous and unenforcable terms and conditions of big business. As I've said quite a few times in this thread, yes, ultimately, this is correct. But it has to go that far. I've known many people pay for repairs from Samsung because their repair centres refuse to repair it as it's been 'rooted' (their incorrect term for an unofficial ROM flash). I've desperately pleaded with these people to fight it but they just didn't want the trouble. I can't say with any certainty what trading standards or whatever they're called these days would say, but my experience with them when rejecting cars is they'll see it from the middle viewpoint rather than the law or the consumer's side. They are unenforceable from a legal perspective, but multinational companies such as htc and Samsung get away with enforcing them pretty well and when people accept it it becomes de facto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 4, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 4, 2014 The small claims process is hardly onerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I've never actually had to use it. In my own cases the 3rd party has backed down before going that far, and with people I know, they've given up before taking it that far even after I've drafted a letter for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Anyone recommend an app that will switch by bluetooth on and off at certain times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 9, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 9, 2014 If it's a phone, Llama. I'm not sure that will be suitable for a tablet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Installed llama, think I've set it up right. Will find out when I jump in the car in the morning. Couldn't find anything g that let me choose the times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 10, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 10, 2014 You didn't look very hard then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It failed. Help is required please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 10, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2014 Got my new phone (LG Optimus G Pro) today. Can't wait to root and flash it. Their bloat is less annoying than TouchWiz, but I needs mah stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Found the times. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 10, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2014 **** me, 4g lte is fast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 A question for Nexus 5 owners, do you have a contacts app as I havent on mine and in fact haven't since day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2014 It's an app called "People" It's in the Google folder that's automatically on your homescreen when you first turn on the phone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thinking of getting the GF a tablet for her birthday. Budget is around £100, and for that price it looks like my best options are a first gen nexus 7 or the ASUS MeMO HD7. Any advice on which one I should go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 1st gen N7 are starting to show their age a bit now. I'd try and get a 2nd gen refurb or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 11, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thinking of getting the GF a tablet for her birthday. Budget is around £100, and for that price it looks like my best options are a first gen nexus 7 or the ASUS MeMO HD7. Any advice on which one I should go for? It's kind of important to describe what it's going to be used for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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