Bollitics: VT General Election Poll #2

[Gringo]

I expect more from David Cameron to be honest. Leader of the opposition

You expect more of the leader of the opposition than you do of leader of HM govt?

Yes, don't you?

I'd expect them to be equally capable of leading their parties, and with 13 years of govt experience you would expect the incumbent to be actually stronger at the despatch box.

So how do you use something which both are obviously equally guilty of as a measure to choose one over the other?

[avfc89]

I expect more from David Cameron to be honest. Leader of the opposition

You expect more of the leader of the opposition than you do of leader of HM govt?

Yes, don't you?

I'd expect them to be equally capable of leading their parties, and with 13 years of govt experience you would expect the incumbent to be actually stronger at the despatch box.

So how do you use something which both are obviously equally guilty of as a measure to choose one over the other?

I would, as you said, side with the current Government with 13 years experience if there aren't any other creditable alternatives from the opposition. Looking at their policies, the Tories would be a disaster if they got into power this May.

[avfc89]

David Cameron has no policies, he justs berates Gordon Brown. It is tiresome.

Or if you listened to PMQs you might say:

Gordon Brown has no policies, he justs berates David Cameron. It is tiresome.

I expect more from David Cameron to be honest. Leader of the opposition; he can see Labour's failings and problems in front of him, why not take advantage of that? Unless his policies aren't beneficial to the common people of Britain, which I suspect they aren't. I am sorry I just don't believe in Cameron or the Tories.

No-one wants to release any policies because they will be pilloried by the press. And if you're the Tories, you don't want to have to tell people WHERE these cuts that they've been on about are going to be, because people won't like it if it affects them. It's one thing to make big promises, but to explain how you are going to enact them is another. And if they might be lose votes in key seats, it makes more sense to keep schtum. This, sadly, is just the nature of electoral politics.

Exactly, that's why I'm not voting for them.

[Gringo]

I expect more from David Cameron to be honest. Leader of the opposition

You expect more of the leader of the opposition than you do of leader of HM govt?

Yes, don't you?

I'd expect them to be equally capable of leading their parties, and with 13 years of govt experience you would expect the incumbent to be actually stronger at the despatch box.

So how do you use something which both are obviously equally guilty of as a measure to choose one over the other?

I would, as you said, side with the current Government with 13 years experience if there aren't any other creditable alternatives from the opposition. Looking at their policies, the Tories would be a disaster if they got into power this May.

What tory policies are different to nulabour policies?

[avfc89]

I expect more from David Cameron to be honest. Leader of the opposition

You expect more of the leader of the opposition than you do of leader of HM govt?

Yes, don't you?

I'd expect them to be equally capable of leading their parties, and with 13 years of govt experience you would expect the incumbent to be actually stronger at the despatch box.

So how do you use something which both are obviously equally guilty of as a measure to choose one over the other?

I would, as you said, side with the current Government with 13 years experience if there aren't any other creditable alternatives from the opposition. Looking at their policies, the Tories would be a disaster if they got into power this May.

What tory policies are different to nulabour policies?

The Economy is the big deal this election, Tories want to hold a emergency meeting - reducing the deficit - within 50 days of them taking office, that's too risky and shouldn't they be planning before hand? You're right they're both very similar but who would you trust Gringo in this time of need?

[tonyh29]

but who would you trust Gringo in this time of need?

more importantly I wouldn't trust the dummkopf who put us in this mess

this is what i find hard to fathom .. Osborne is allegedly a clueless nitwit and everyone whose ever watched a Mel Gibson film knows that any well educated rich Englishman has to be an incompetent buffoon ...... and yet the country is in a shambles and the man to blame both as Chancellor and now as Fuhrer was part of the cause and yet the argument is he has 13 years of experience we should trust him .. stark raving barmy the lot of you :-)

if VT members were turkeys , i'm sure they would vote for Christmas ... shakes head and goes back to youporn ..errrm i mean watching a documentary

[rjw63]

They are all self-serving cuuuuuuuuuuuuunts

[avfc89]

They are all self-serving cuuuuuuuuuuuuunts

Pretty much, I think BNP will get a few northern seats.

[snowychap]

You're right they're both very similar but who would you trust Gringo in this time of need?

I know I'm not Grings but I'd like to butt in here and ask why should you trust either of them or why would you put your trust in either of them?

[CarewsEyebrowDesigner]

I think its a case of the devil you know rather than the one you dont.

[tonyh29]

think its a case of the devil you know rather than the one you dont.

but then how did the devil we didn't know get elected and become the devil we do know :?

:-)

[avfc89]

Woah Tony, it's all going over my head, I'm only a simple northern lad who works in t'mill

[CarewsEyebrowDesigner]

think its a case of the devil you know rather than the one you dont.

but then how did the devil we didn't know get elected and become the devil we do know :?

:-)

I duno i was 7 at the time

[avfc89]

I thought you were about 46.

[Awol]

UKIP as a protest vote. My feelings about the encumbent government are pretty well known but I'm completely uninspired by the Tories and their lack of bottle. They may not appear to have any policies but I'm pretty sure they know exactly what needs to happen (cut public spending brutally and tax the backdoors out of us for the next four years) to get things back on track, but they haven't got the courage to say it.

I predict a Brown lead Lab/Lib coalition with concessions made towards PR and then GE Mk 2 by Christmas 2010, returning a working Conservative majority under someone other than Cameron. Boris Johnson, maybe?

Not that it matters much imo because anything other than an outright Tory win in May will see the money markets/credit agencies drop UK Plc into a world of shit.

[Jon]

They may not appear to have any policies but I'm pretty sure they know exactly what needs to happen (cut public spending brutally and tax the backdoors out of us for the next four years) to get things back on track, but they haven't got the courage to say it.

Way to stunt any recovery there AWOL.

[Jon]

but who would you trust Gringo in this time of need?

more importantly I wouldn't trust the dummkopf who put us in this mess

The Bankers/Thatch who set us up as an unregulated financial hub?

I agree.

[Awol]

They may not appear to have any policies but I'm pretty sure they know exactly what needs to happen (cut public spending brutally and tax the backdoors out of us for the next four years) to get things back on track, but they haven't got the courage to say it.

Way to stunt any recovery there AWOL.

That's the recieved wisdom, Jon, but the way I see it we're stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. If we don't get the deficit under control soon (and that means massive cuts in public spending ultimately) it may be a case of depression rather than recession, when we either can't raise the money to borrow or it is at such astronomical interest rates that servicing the debt would break us anyway.

There is no quick fix and both cuts and tax rises will be needed with taxes going up siginifcantly in a few years time. There is no recovery at the moment, it's an illusion that is likely to be rudely shattered post election, but at the moment no political party is prepared to scare the horses by telling it how it actually is (imo).

[Awol]

but who would you trust Gringo in this time of need?

more importantly I wouldn't trust the dummkopf who put us in this mess

The Bankers/Thatch who set us up as an unregulated financial hub?

You know that it was this government who ended BoE regulation(which worked) and installed the tri-partate system (which failed), right?

Trying to blame the other guy after 13 years with Labour at the helm is fairly nonsensical.

[Jon]

Give the bankers their bonuses!

I'd certainly give the bankers what they deserve.

Unfortunately, and akin to the wiggyrichard ethos, that would involve both a tree and a noose