Keyblade Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: cause they weren't the best contender probably and the awards were on merit ( well that and who has the most cash to buy it ) ....... When the award for best black person in a category only for black people goes to Jack Black then I'll maybe join the protest movement with Mrs Smith * * I won't cause I'm lazy Not true re: merit. Unless you think Taylor Swift had a better albun than Kendrick Lamar (and your name isn't CED). His album To Pimp a Butterfly was a shoo in for aoty on literally almost every single major publication (and non major publication for that matter). It's akin to David Silva winning the Balon d'Or aead of Messi or Ronaldo. It's kind of odd that arguably the most popular genre of the past 2 decades has only had 2 winners of the biggest prize in the biggest popularity contest in music in that period. Also excuse the multiple quotes, I'm on q commute and my phone is acting a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Not true re: merit. Unless you think Taylor Swift had a better albun than Kendrick Lamar (and your name isn't CED). His album To Pimp a Butterfly was a shoo in for aoty on literally almost every single major publication I honestly couldn't say as I wouldn't have a clue who Kendrik Lamar is , though at least I do know who Taylor Swift is even if her music isn't for me but I did insert a get out about record companies buying the awards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I haven't listened to the Kendrick Lamar but it would have to be going some to be better than 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Erm I wasn't being serious. It was a barbed comment about tokenism and how annoying it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I would have thought there are really only three ways of judging these things: Statistics - as in the most money / downloads / plays etc. wins as a point of pure fact. Coldplay selling a million copies of a song for a million pound beats somebody obscure selling five hundred copies of something for five hundred pound. Perception of craft or cool is irrelevant. Art - this is subjective and suggests there must be a panel of experts with the correct taste and opinions that can tell us an Adele song is better than a Muse song. Vox Pop - vote now, did you like the back story of the blind girl singer, the cheeky gangstaaa, or the dancing dog in a tutu? Personally, I have little interest in any of those. I don't care if a song has shifted a million units. I don't follow bands because they won a Novello. I certainly wouldn't base anything on how many teenagers voted on the red button from a pre selected short list of pop stars. I like Abba, so I buy some Abba. I like the Beach Boys, I bought some Beach Boys. Yesterday, I walked in to a shop and was instructed by the all knowing staff that I should buy some Ulver and some Horace Andy. I did this. If any of them are 'winners' it's kind of coincidental. But I guess prizes raise profile? So I understand how the industry sees it as being necessary. Good for them if it works for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Erm I wasn't being serious. It was a barbed comment about tokenism and how annoying it is. I would have thought referencing Jack Black in my reply would have been a clue as to how I took your post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 35 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Yesterday, I walked in to a shop and was instructed by the all knowing staff that I should buy some Ulver and some Horace Andy. I did this. I bet you are also growing a hipster beard right now as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Rich and famous people back slapping and giving awards to other rich and famous people while the poor look on and clap like seals. Is that the Brits or every popular awards show currently running? Got no time for any of them really, maybe the Oscars still means something (if you are white ) not sure about anything else really. Edited February 25, 2016 by AVFCDAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I bet you are also growing a hipster beard right now as well Right now? Black heavy framed glasses. Quite a severe short hair cut. Full salt n pepper beard. Black jumper. Black jeans. Brown boots with white soles. Hot. You know you want it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 They've done their job and people are talking about them. These last few pages alone may well have generated a number of sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: Apparently yeah. Was surprised when there was an uproar that Kendrick Lamar didn't win album of the year at the Grammy's this year. Not because I disagreed (he should have), but because I didn't think people cared about the Grammy's in 2016 His album wasn't even that good, it's a 3 star album, worse than Good Kid Mad City. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: I would have thought there are really only three ways of judging these things: Statistics - as in the most money / downloads / plays etc. wins as a point of pure fact. Coldplay selling a million copies of a song for a million pound beats somebody obscure selling five hundred copies of something for five hundred pound. Perception of craft or cool is irrelevant. Art - this is subjective and suggests there must be a panel of experts with the correct taste and opinions that can tell us an Adele song is better than a Muse song. Vox Pop - vote now, did you like the back story of the blind girl singer, the cheeky gangstaaa, or the dancing dog in a tutu? Personally, I have little interest in any of those. I don't care if a song has shifted a million units. I don't follow bands because they won a Novello. I certainly wouldn't base anything on how many teenagers voted on the red button from a pre selected short list of pop stars. I like Abba, so I buy some Abba. I like the Beach Boys, I bought some Beach Boys. Yesterday, I walked in to a shop and was instructed by the all knowing staff that I should buy some Ulver and some Horace Andy. I did this. If any of them are 'winners' it's kind of coincidental. But I guess prizes raise profile? So I understand how the industry sees it as being necessary. Good for them if it works for them. Great post. Ulver are one of my favorite bands, they have one of the richest and most diverse discogs around. Which album did you pick up? I'm guessing the one released earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Over the last few weeks this thread has become more like the general music chat thread. Edited February 25, 2016 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: His album wasn't even that good, it's a 3 star album, worse than Good Kid Mad City. I'm inclined to agree (haven't heard it in full tbf), but it's miles ahead of its competition in those awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Which album did you pick up? ATGCLVLSSCAP Very good, excellent first 9 or 10 tracks, less keen on the singing towards the end but perhaps that will grow on me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: ATGCLVLSSCAP Very good, excellent first 9 or 10 tracks, less keen on the singing towards the end but perhaps that will grow on me. That's the one. I haven't heard it yet, but I'm sure it will be great. Garm's singing has always been a bit hit or miss but they definitely do grow on you eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm so bored.. Won't someone throw a pie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 25, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2016 That album name sounds like someone getting their lad caught in the zip. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, BOF said: That album name sounds like someone getting their lad caught in the zip. I played some to my nipper as captive audience in the car last night. Apparently it's a genre called 'repetitive incoherent shite just like the rest of the CD's in your car, dad'. Well, I like it and it's my car. Driver picks the tunes, it's a science law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 You should try playing him their third album Nattens Madrigal. He'll be plotting an escape plan within the first minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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