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  1. 1. Are these racist?

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I won't tell you the background to this, or my opinion, as it may sway the poll. Thinking mainly on the one on the left really.

Just a simple question. Are the figures pictured here racist?

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I know the picture isn't the clearest but you get the idea.

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Were they made by tribe people to make money for themselves ? dont know why that would matter tho,

I could have them without thinking they were discriminating or poking fun at anybody.

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Well, the actual figures themselves are not racist. They could be a playful caricature made by a mischievous artist. Say, a son models his mother, for a joke.

However, our cultural interpretation of what they may represent leads them to be considered by some, to be racist. Within our society those images stimulate different reactions, which obviously varies from person to person. Some may feel that they represent racial stereotypes, which are derogatory. Others may see them as harmless fun.

As inanimate objects, they are not inherently racist. It is what we interpret them, that is.

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I voted "no". An inanimate object cannot in itself be "racist", only a person can. So, for example, a small child playing with a gollywog doll is harmless. But if an adult waves the gollywog doll at the child and says "This is a nigger, we hate them", that's racist.

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I voted "no". An inanimate object cannot in itself be "racist", only a person can. So, for example, a small child playing with a gollywog doll is harmless. But if an adult waves the gollywog doll at the child and says "This is a nigger, we hate them", that's racist.

bang on.

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However, our cultural interpretation of what they may represent leads them to be considered by some, to be racist. Within our society those images stimulate different reactions, which obviously varies from person to person. Some may feel that they represent racial stereotypes, which are derogatory. Others may see them as harmless fun.

As inanimate objects, they are not inherently racist. It is the connote what is!

Yep, that's where I was coming from. As for Gollywogs, they originally came about as caricatures of minstrels (a racist notion in itself) and were depicted as stupid, evil, thieving etc. Also the fact that variations on the name were adopted as racist phrases, Wogs in particular, means to me, they're racist.

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I agree with most on here...no way are they racist imo. I think you have to be highly over-sensitive to find racism in things like that.

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Of course they're not racist

Are you training to be a journalist for the Socialist Workers Party? :-)

:lol: no mate.

But if an adult waves the gollywog doll at the child and says "This is a nigger, we hate them", that's racist.

Basically though, that is where the creators of these caricatures were coming from and I'd say their existence set the civil rights movement back considerably be reinforcing negative stereotypes.

"For as long as I can remember and I'm in my mid-40s, it has always been something people have used to poke fun at people like me," said Michael Eboda, publisher of The Power List of Britain's 100 most powerful black men and women. "There are some white people who've been trying to say that when we were all young it wasn't offensive. I just feel like saying: Maybe not to you. To me, it always has been. To use that term of a black person is an unequivocal insult. There's no other way of interpreting it, and it really makes me wonder how many other people use those terms in their private worlds."

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I voted no.

Actually though, considering there are no white ones, no yellow ones, no paler brown ones, then clearly, the ethnic balance of the small wooden carved figures is totally non-pc. It is essential that all mantlepiece displays of little wooden figures conform to government policy (and they should all have ID cards, or face expulsion to the cupboard under the stairs).

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I voted no.

Actually though, considering there are no white ones, no yellow ones, no paler brown ones, then clearly, the ethnic balance of the small wooden carved figures is totally non-pc. It is essential that all mantlepiece displays of little wooden figures conform to government policy (and they should all have ID cards, or face expulsion to the cupboard under the stairs).

:lol:

Looks like I'm getting a bit of pasting here :nod:

Someone else voted yes. Help me out here whoever you are! :cry:

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