MSvillain Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 It’s only a matter of time before Everton rediscover their 2005 form and challenge for Top 4 again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 27 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: I’d take CL. We’d be financially much better off and I’d hope it’ll catapult us into the elite club bracket in a few years. It won't though. Elite clubs budget for being in the Champions League every season and we won't be able to do that. We could be just like like Newcastle where it's a once off and we are back fighting for a Europa league place or worse. The main advantage to being in the CL next season would be getting four away trips to some of the great football grounds in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Tayls said: Personally for me, being born just before the 90s, I haven’t grown up seeing us win trophies and certainly haven’t been to any parades. So it’s not something I know, or need to experience (Actually seeing that West Ham picture gives me anxiety with those crowds but that’s another issue). If we were to win the ECL, I’d be straight to thinking how can we improve next year to get to where the big clubs are. And I will think that right up to the champions league… if we win that, then I’ll probably become an emotional wreck. Im really sorry but I just can’t get excited about winning a third tier competition. It’s not the pinnacle. Again though, that’s not to say I wouldn’t be delighted with winning it. But I’d just be thinking that we need to reach the next level now. You're just trolling at this point. No real fan feels like this or ever could do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 17 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17 Everyone challenging for the top 4 is what makes the premier league popular, we need to keep it competitive and that's why man City are such a threat to it all, they are boring cheats. Spoilt kids. We are favourites this week, next week who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I do think Spurs will come up with a surprise result. They are an unpredictable team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, villa89 said: It won't though. Elite clubs budget for being in the Champions League every season and we won't be able to do that. We could be just like like Newcastle where it's a once off and we are back fighting for a Europa league place or worse. The main advantage to being in the CL next season would be getting four away trips to some of the great football grounds in Europe. This is a crux of the problem. Some fans on here seem to think that one season in the CL is a golden ticket to the promised land, an exclusive club that once you're in, you're a member for life. The delusion is off the charts. Hundreds of pages of people rambling on about coefficients and people saying they don't want to win trophies. This thread should nuked for everyone's sake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 One season in the Champions League would change nothing at all and would by no means guarantee we will be in it year after year, thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 37 minutes ago, juanpabloangel18 said: The UECL is cute little tournament, but it has no history or prestige. It was invented in 2021. It might not be now, but it could be in 50 years time and hopefully our name will be the third one written on it. Was the UEFA cup prestigious in 1974 in its third year? Or the European Cup in 1958? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I agree. One season in CL won't do anything. Sustained success is what you have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 17 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: One season in the Champions League would change nothing at all and would by no means guarantee we will be in it year after year, thereafter. Not sure I agree with you. 1 season in the champions league would mean: A better chance to keep our best players A better chance to attract better players Some global exposure More money A great experience for fans And that's all a big change on this season 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: Not sure I agree with you. 1 season in the champions league would mean: A better chance to keep our best players A better chance to attract better players Some global exposure More money A great experience for fans And that's all a big change on this season That is all good for one season, yeah. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarpet Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Pinebro said: I agree. One season in CL won't do anything. Sustained success is what you have to do. which you can't have until you take that first step, which can start with next season in the champions league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, bcarpet said: which you can't have until you take that first step, which can start with next season in the champions league I totally agree! All I am saying is that one season in the Champions League doesn't equal sustained success and finishing in the top 4 every year thereafter. Newcastle the latest example of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted April 17 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Is no qualifiers for PL teams We can still manage it somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MSvillain Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, Pinebro said: I do think Spurs will come up with a surprise result. They are an unpredictable team. Loss to sheff Utd? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, R.Bear said: This is a crux of the problem. Some fans on here seem to think that one season in the CL is a golden ticket to the promised land, an exclusive club that once you're in, you're a member for life. The delusion is off the charts. Hundreds of pages of people rambling on about coefficients and people saying they don't want to win trophies. This thread should nuked for everyone's sake. The coefficient crap has ruined a lot of fun of this season, our best season in nearly 30 years. Beat Lille and people miserable Liverpool lost. Beat Arsenal away and people now sulking Dortmund won as a trophy is not as important as being an also ran in the Champions League 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Totally get those that would rather have the conference over top 4 but it reminds me a bit of the Stanford Marshmallow experiment. I’m happy to hold off celebrating a conference league for future success. But we’ll do both anyway so it doesn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) I’m genuinely torn as to whether I’d prefer to see new European silverware in the cabinet, or a certificate for participating in the Champions League. Edited April 17 by chrisp65 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, bcarpet said: which you can't have until you take that first step, which can start with next season in the champions league Of course but consecutive top 4 finishes has proven to be extremely difficult for non established top 4 clubs. Newcastle and Leicester being he most recent of examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: The coefficient crap has ruined a lot of fun of this season, our best season in nearly 30 years. Beat Lille and people miserable Liverpool lost. Beat Arsenal away and people now sulking Dortmund won as a trophy is not as important as being an also ran in the Champions League I think you’re overstating it. Most people don’t care that much about the whole coefficient thing and are delighted with the season. It just feels the opposite online and normally from the same few people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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